Preorders, Kickstarters and Benefits (Destiny)
I still got three extra days, and I enjoyed them. I know I'm buying the game. Unless the raid sucks (highly improbable), I know I'm going to get my money's worth (even buying special editions) compared to just about any other entertainment I could purchase for myself (except maybe used books).
I guess I understand the argument against preorders, but preorders represent a company's or game's stock in a sense. It encourages more investment in both, and I've yet to be convinced that pre-orders have contributed negatively to the quality of Bungie's games.
Except stock ownership confers benefits that preorders don't.
So pre-order bonuses aren't a thing?
I didn't say "stock ownership confers benefits AND preorders don't".I said "stock ownership confers benefits THAT preorders don't".
Whether the preorder bonuses are worth the lost opportunity costs and the perverse incentives it creates is a separate argument.
When you invest in a thing, you get a negotiable asset that (hopefully) increases in value, and confers upon the owner certain other rights, such as voting rights, in certain conditions.
Preordering gives you bonuses plus the same thing everyone gets on launch day: the game.
Funding through Kickstarter or other platforms gives you bonuses (maybe) and the game (maybe) or quite possibly nothing at all.
You can, of course, invest your money and lose it, but that's because the thing you bought is no longer worth anything, not because you never received the thing you "bought".
I'm not talking about the direct benefits to those who preorder, although there are some. I'm saying preorders are a measure of the company's or game's value, which in turn affect the actual stock value and (one hopes) the ability of the company to maintain and attract the talent necessary to make the game good, which is one of preorder sales' indirect benefits to gamers.
Complete thread:
- Beta extended through 7/25 -
Avateur,
2017-07-23, 12:07
- Cool! -
SteelGaribaldi,
2017-07-23, 12:11
- Oh hey! Me too. You... you should join me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 13:17
- Bah! Inactive Kick. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 15:09
- 6 hours and counting. -
SteelGaribaldi,
2017-07-23, 16:32
- Your numbers may be inaccurate then. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 17:12
- Kicked to orbit, then Xbox shut down. :) - SteelGaribaldi, 2017-07-23, 19:36
- Your numbers may be inaccurate then. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 17:12
- Grand Total Images -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 17:33
- Just post a link? - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-24, 11:54
- 6 hours and counting. -
SteelGaribaldi,
2017-07-23, 16:32
- Bah! Inactive Kick. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 15:09
- Oh hey! Me too. You... you should join me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-23, 13:17
- That's amazing! -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-23, 13:13
- With a worse/stressed connection... but yes. True. - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-23, 13:17
- Do you have it downloaded already? -
Speedracer513,
2017-07-23, 13:34
- Do you have it downloaded already? -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-23, 16:02
- Do you have it downloaded already? - Kermit, 2017-07-24, 08:39
- Do you have it downloaded already? -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-23, 16:02
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-23, 13:45
- This is why you never pre-order! - Kahzgul, 2017-07-23, 15:45
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Kermit,
2017-07-24, 08:48
- +2 - Harmanimus, 2017-07-24, 09:43
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-24, 11:30
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 12:03
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-24, 12:06
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! - Cody Miller, 2017-07-24, 12:18
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-24, 12:34
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-24, 17:10
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! - DiscipleN2k, 2017-07-24, 17:17
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-24, 12:06
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 12:03
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-24, 11:38
- Can't imagine anyone doing that. -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-07-24, 11:46
- Can't imagine anyone doing that. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-24, 14:10
- Can't imagine anyone doing that. - DiscipleN2k, 2017-07-24, 17:00
- Can't imagine anyone doing that. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-24, 14:10
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 12:10
- Methodology? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-24, 12:42
- #codymilleryall - Cody Miller, 2017-07-24, 12:49
- #CodyMillerYall -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 12:56
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Beorn,
2017-07-24, 13:07
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Funkmon,
2017-07-24, 13:17
- Who is VG Chartz? - Korny, 2017-07-24, 14:00
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 13:21
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Beorn,
2017-07-24, 15:49
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 17:20
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-24, 18:26
- Thank you for providing DATA - Cody Miller, 2017-07-24, 21:49
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-24, 18:26
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 17:20
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Beorn,
2017-07-24, 15:49
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Funkmon,
2017-07-24, 13:17
- Who is VG Chartz? -
Beorn,
2017-07-24, 13:07
- Methodology? -
narcogen,
2017-07-24, 19:38
- Methodology? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-25, 10:26
- Methodology? - Cody Miller, 2017-07-25, 10:46
- Methodology? - Ragashingo, 2017-07-25, 11:14
- I also find this plausible. - Funkmon, 2017-07-25, 10:29
- Methodology? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-25, 10:26
- Hashtag Classic Cody - ManKitten, 2017-07-24, 13:34
- Methodology? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-24, 12:42
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! - ManKitten, 2017-07-24, 12:13
- Can't imagine anyone doing that. -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-07-24, 11:46
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
narcogen,
2017-07-24, 19:36
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 21:53
- Preorders, Kickstarters and Benefits -
narcogen,
2017-07-25, 00:26
- Preorders, Kickstarters and Benefits - Kermit, 2017-07-25, 07:58
- Preorders, Kickstarters and Benefits -
narcogen,
2017-07-25, 00:26
- Proof that Pre-orders for Betas are crap! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-24, 21:53
- Beta extended through 7/25 -
bluerunner,
2017-07-23, 17:48
- Beta extended through 7/25 -
Kermit,
2017-07-24, 08:38
- Beta extended through 7/25 - bluerunner, 2017-07-25, 02:16
- We'll get Funkmon to play a game. That should do it. - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-24, 10:24
- Beta extended through 7/25 -
Kermit,
2017-07-24, 08:38
- Cool! -
SteelGaribaldi,
2017-07-23, 12:11