This all seems amazing.

Invisible Hunter had been my playstyle forever, so the new Aspects seem perfect. I’m also eager to try the new Warlock stuff. This seems like exactly the sort of differentiation between classes Destiny has really needed to lean into.

I can’t wait to see what they do with Solar and Arc.

I'm REALLY going to be holding my breath when Bungie gets to arc. I'm not even going to say WHY, for once, as I've certainly mentioned my infinite enjoyment of the arc suite of hunter skills (dang it) enough in my time here. Not only because of the muscle memory, but because I've found it to be so flawlessly fun for all these years. If the mark is missed, even a little, I'll feel it and I'll be very disappointed. If I EVER get to test anything early (which I won't because I'm not a streamer PROVE ME WRONG!), I hope it would be at least for the arc changes. I don't even think I've properly described the ball of angst filled apprehension about... and I'm off on a tangent. Void. We're on Void.

Void.

Warlock wise I'm... kinda bummed on paper. Hunter kit seems really focused, and Titans mostly got all sorts of new kit to reinforce the line. It all looks really cool. Yet, for the warlocks, I was really hoping for something like what titans got (and have had) in Controlled Demolition. "Hitting a target with a Void ability or volatile detonation will make them volatile". Whats this? The (basically) mage class can't cast a mark of the void onto their foes, so to explode on death? WHAT BLASPHEMY IS THIS! And you gave this ability to the barbarian paladin?

I really think they are overselling "Mark of the Old Gods", in part because most of the warlock kit is so unchanged. Which isn't to say HEY COOL, but... well, now I guess I'll always be a well-lock somehow now huh. WE all have our playstyles, and I would far prefer not to stand still. I was hoping that I'd be able to do stuff much like with Attunement Of Fission (Middle Tree Voidwalker), but mixed with the other trees. Movement, fast and explosive, matched in turn by the considerable cool downs and equalized by buffs in those cool downs by energy drain mechanics. And it doesn't seem like I'll be able to pull that off yet to me. On that note, an observation here. We now have more options, and yet it all feels more restrictive in possible play-styles to me. Does that make sense?

Again, all on paper here, pudding is best proved in the eating and what not.

Oh and just... one more thing, Bungie WHERE (also) IS MY SPLIT NOVA BUNGIE! DID YOU THINK I WOULD FORGET!

I have that podcast in my queue for this afternoon. I’ll post some notes later tonight if there’s anything revelatory.

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They immediately dive into the Hunter stuff. Invisibility is no longer inherent to Smoke Grenades. You have to have Trapper’s Ambush equipped, but it wasn’t clear whether using that will still give smoke grenades invisibility when thrown normally or if you have to use the dive move to go invisible. I assume the former, but it’s not for sure.

I don’t have a great answer for you, other than that the subclasses don’t feel very distinct to me. Top tree Nightstalker might as well be bottom tree for how it feels moment to moment. I know there are differences, but they don’t seem to matter other than just being a slightly different flavor. Are you building around dodge uptime for invisibility or melee uptime?

That’s in massive contrast to Stasis, where piecing together different aspects and fragments make some pretty diverse builds. Maybe it’s not actually more diverse, but it just feels like it because I pay more attention due to actually having to make those choices versus just picking one complete prebuilt kit with the other subclasses.

I like the differentiation they’re leaning into—the specializations of each class. Hunters get in invisibility, Titans get overshields, Warlocks get Devour, etc. I want class to feel like a meaningful choice, and not just a slightly different flavor. I kind of wish they were going even more extreme in that regard, honestly.

It was largely a rhetorical question, but now I'm not so sure. This is where y'all come in. I think I don't have enough information, as my own incites and takes don't feel "enough" and so I'm asking for y'alls take. Right now, in our coming towards last week of Void 2.0, what does each tree feel like to you? Does each tree feel like it has it's own style of play? Or does all feel like it's some cohesive main idea? Or shoot, both or none at all? How have you not lost interest in the aspects of the Void 2.0 subclass? How has this rigid style of power kept its fun for you?

All I really care about for each tree is whether A) I like it and it feels good to use and B) when I use it, is it good relative to everything else?

I ended up playing the crap out of bottom tree Nightstalker because I got sick of Golden Gun being terrible in PvP (everyone just runs away), and so I figured "hey, bottom tree Nightstalker has multiple shots, maybe I can make that work as an ad hoc golden gun". Then I realized how good all the rest of the kit is (smoke bombs and voidwalls), combined it with Gemini Jesters, and once I had practiced using the super enough to actually get kills with it, the rest is history.

Top tree used to be great in PvE when Orpheus Rigs was good and there weren't 100 other ways to debuff enemies. Now I see no reason to use it. Middle tree is seemingly useless in PvE, and I don't like the super in PvP. All the really hard PvE stuff I almost never play my Hunter for.