What? (Destiny)
1. Bungie is releasing details about the game when and how they would like to, likely to make sure excitement about the game builds a certain way as well as make sure it's communicated in an easy to understand way.
2. You are demanding more details/information. How else would you describe what your post is? You're complaining about not getting more information?
I think this is a fundamental misunderstanding with what I'm taking issue with, so perhaps I explained myself badly. This happened last time when DeeJ told me that my ‘impatience’ was appreciated, too — it's not impatience, and I'm not demanding more information. What I'm irritated by is the tone of communication which continues to be: we'll tell you some stuff but leave loads of it vague and wishy-washy, regardless of how basic and non-controversial it is because hey that's just how we roll.
Are you going to complain that you don't have a list of the bosses from the game? That there isn't a confirmed list of what every weapon and it's rarity is? My problem is that the scope of the details you want appears arbitrary and I see no good reason why it's important that you get it.
Other than the specific example of the level cap, I haven't actually really ‘demanded’ details on anything. And I do think there are loads of details which do justify being kept secret for players to discover for themselves (I wrote some examples in my initial reply, then deleted them because I thought it was too nitpicky; I guess it would have been more helpful to illustrate what I meant).
So then: level cap: not a spoiler; exotic weapons in the game spoiler!; number of raids/strikes in the game not a spoiler; location and details about what happens in raids/strikes: spoiler!.
Also I take issue with your definition of patronising, I don't think it means what you're trying to say.
My interpretation is that they think they know what's best for us. I dispute that; when you're talking about a massive scale game, then the chances are that a team of a few hundred is going to be wrong about a few things once a few million players get their hands on it and start working out the details. I think you have to accept this as truth, because that is what has happened with every large-scale game once it gets out into the public. Perhaps it's going a little too far to say that this is Bungie's overwhelming tone, but it certainly shows in flashes, and I think patronising is definitely the word I'd use to describe it when it happens.
Complete thread:
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 05:49
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-31, 06:04
- What? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 06:46
- What? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2014-07-31, 07:16
- What? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 07:51
- Does it *really* matter? -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-07-31, 08:09
- Does it *really* matter? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:16
- Does it *really* matter? -
Chris101b,
2014-07-31, 19:25
- Does it *really* matter? - kapowaz, 2014-08-01, 00:39
- Does it *really* matter? -
Chris101b,
2014-07-31, 19:25
- Does it *really* matter? -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 11:24
- Does it *really* matter? -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 12:00
- Does it *really* matter? -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 12:16
- Audition - MrPadraig08, 2014-07-31, 12:26
- Does it *really* matter? -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 13:03
- Does it *really* matter? - Cody Miller, 2014-07-31, 14:33
- Does it *really* matter? -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 12:16
- Does it *really* matter? -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 12:00
- Does it *really* matter? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:16
- What? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2014-07-31, 08:27
- What? - kapowaz, 2014-07-31, 08:40
- Does it *really* matter? -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-07-31, 08:09
- What? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 07:51
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-31, 07:17
- What? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:01
- What? - RC, 2014-07-31, 10:48
- What? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:01
- Simple - Cody Miller, 2014-07-31, 11:21
- What? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2014-07-31, 07:16
- What? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 06:46
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 06:13
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 06:50
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 08:28
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:44
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive - Kermit, 2014-07-31, 08:53
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:44
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 08:28
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 06:50
- This just in... Bungie's official response! - INSANEdrive, 2014-07-31, 07:02
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 07:05
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:12
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 08:35
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:48
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-31, 09:57
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive - kapowaz, 2014-07-31, 10:08
- Woah - Cody Miller, 2014-07-31, 11:39
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Chris101b,
2014-07-31, 19:43
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
car15,
2014-07-31, 21:09
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Chris101b,
2014-07-31, 23:25
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive - Ragashingo, 2014-07-31, 23:40
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive - Phoenix_9286, 2014-07-31, 23:40
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Chris101b,
2014-07-31, 23:25
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
car15,
2014-07-31, 21:09
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-31, 09:57
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:48
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 08:35
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:12
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-07-31, 08:11
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:20
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-07-31, 08:25
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 08:35
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:49
- Fixed that. -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 09:00
- Fixed that. - kapowaz, 2014-07-31, 09:04
- Fixed that. -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 09:00
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:49
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 08:35
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-07-31, 08:25
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 08:20
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 08:31
- Ok, Bungie: time to stop being evasive - kapowaz, 2014-07-31, 08:53
- Want vs Need -
marmot 1333,
2014-07-31, 09:23
- Want vs Need -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 10:01
- Want vs Need -
marmot 1333,
2014-07-31, 11:02
- Want vs Need -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 11:53
- Want vs Need -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:08
- Want vs Need -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 16:20
- Want vs Need -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:29
- Want vs Need - Ragashingo, 2014-07-31, 18:24
- Halo 3 Release had tons of Info -
Hoovaloov,
2014-08-01, 01:48
- Halo 3 Release had tons of Info - kapowaz, 2014-08-01, 02:22
- Want vs Need -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:29
- Want vs Need - Kermit, 2014-07-31, 16:41
- Want vs Need -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 16:20
- Want vs Need -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:08
- Want vs Need -
Kermit,
2014-07-31, 11:53
- Want vs Need -
marmot 1333,
2014-07-31, 11:02
- Want vs Need -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 10:01
- No thanks, I'm good. -
Leviathan,
2014-07-31, 09:51
- No spoilers in subject lines, please -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 10:43
- Darth Vader is Luke's Father -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 12:20
- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! -
RC,
2014-07-31, 13:01
- Seriously, That's Impossible -
MrPadraig08,
2014-07-31, 13:33
- Search your feelings. You know it to be true. - INSANEdrive, 2014-07-31, 13:39
- Even for a computer. - Ragashingo, 2014-07-31, 13:43
- Seriously, That's Impossible -
MrPadraig08,
2014-07-31, 13:33
- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! -
RC,
2014-07-31, 13:01
- Darth Vader is Luke's Father -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 12:20
- No spoilers in subject lines, please -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 10:43
- You Could Try Asking? -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 10:44
- You Could Try Asking? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 15:02
- You'd never read the answer anyhow. :p -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 15:16
- You'd be surprised what I do pay attention to… - kapowaz, 2014-07-31, 15:51
- You Could Try Asking? - DaDerga, 2014-07-31, 16:59
- You Could Try Asking? -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 20:17
- You Could Try Asking? - kapowaz, 2014-08-01, 11:14
- You'd never read the answer anyhow. :p -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 15:16
- You Could Try Asking? -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 15:02
- A perfect example of what I'm talking about -
kapowaz,
2014-08-01, 00:45
- A perfect example of what I'm talking about -
RC,
2014-08-01, 06:16
- Yeah, it's not Bungie's fault people spread misinformation - kidtsunami, 2014-08-01, 06:37
- A perfect example of what I'm talking about -
RC,
2014-08-01, 06:16
- Seems Straightforward Enough - DaDerga, 2014-08-01, 02:59
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-31, 06:04