Thoughts on the VoG *rant/spoilers* (Destiny)

by breitzen , Kansas, Wednesday, October 08, 2014, 05:16 (3936 days ago) @ Cody Miller

For clarity, I fully plan on playing every raid in the future. I don't think I'll be going in as a virgin from now on, simply because I don't want to spend as much time on future raids as I spent on the VoG. But I love the problem-solving aspect of it. I love gameplay that switches things up on you like this did. And I want to be able to experience that sort of stuff on my own schedule, and at a difficulty that I choose.

If you don't go in knowing nothing, then how do you preserve the problem solving and challenge? If you know the mechanics and strategies of the fights, that would ruin that aspect. The raid was a lot of fun because you had to work together to figure this out.

But that's only half the equation. I found it a lot of fun to problem solve the Raid, but we didn't even figure out the Relic could Cleanse you till after attempting the gatekeeper sequence for about 4 hours. That felt like a horrible waste of time.

What I'd like to see in the future is more missions (in any format) that utilizes similar gameplay and level design, but that's tailored for people who aren't interested in the coordination challenge, but just in having a different experience. I know it wouldn't be the same, but if the VoG had the same puzzles, but just half as many Vex shooting at you with half as much health, it would have been the perfect experience in my book. Solving the puzzle should be the primary obstacles, not the hours and hours of repetitively trying to execute something you understood a long time ago.

This something we talked about during that section mentioned above. Figuring out the mechanics never felt like much of a reward. Executing it perfectly did. Perhaps this is just the balance BUNGIE uses make the people who look it up online still earn thier keep, but it felt very punishing for us. I think a mix of these ideas in different scenarios would be great. Figuring out the puzzle means you can go on, no repetitious mechanics. While other more shoot them up activities are strait forward but are lengthy and more demanding in nature.

A level 20 no grind needed version would have been rad.

Yes.