
I seriously don't get some of this (Destiny)
They sort of nerfed the Auto Rifle while giving a pretty decent bump to the Scout Rifle. Will these changes be felt in a place like Crucible where really only Impact and rate of fire seems to matter? Was bumping down the Auto Rifle even necessary if other things could be bumped up? Were these really a priority when the Fusion Rifle is so unbelievably screwed up broken?
It would seem Bungie wants to better establish roles and limited effective ranges for weapons and the Auto Rifles were intruding too much into... well... really into every role except Rocket Launchers and Sniper Rifles. Why even bother with a Heavy Machine Gun if your Shingen E has a much better range, always has ammo, and kills nearly as fast? Why use a Scout Rifle if you get beat by every other weapon even at long range where it seems like you were supposed to excel?
My feeling, after having tried Auto Rifles for a bit, was they were too easy to use. In PvE I could kill several normal enemies very quickly with very little effort beyond holding down the trigger. In the Crucible I felt like I was always at a disadvantage to Auto Rifles since all the other guns required headshots and multiple trigger pulls to equal the damage output of the Auto Rifles had.
I'm not sure why you'd think the changes won't be felt though... My sense is Auto Rifles users will need to be closer and won't melt opponents nearly so easily as they do right now. And that Scout Rifles will be a bit more forgiving instead of very nearly requiring you get all headshots every time to have a chance.
In the end, Bungie has changed the numbers in the way I felt they needed to be changed, so that's good, now we'll just have to see if they changed things too little, too much, or nailed it.
Complete thread:
- Hotfix incoming... -
Korny,
2014-10-13, 16:49
- Hotfix incoming... - Beorn, 2014-10-13, 16:57
- Hotfix incoming... - SIX min WHISTLE, 2014-10-13, 16:59
- I really hope they playtested the hell out of the Mythoclast - UnrealCh13f, 2014-10-13, 17:04
- Hotfix incoming... - uberfoop, 2014-10-13, 17:38
- lmao at Templar chang -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-10-13, 17:42
- lmao at Templar chang -
Korny,
2014-10-13, 17:48
- Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. -
Riceamike,
2014-10-14, 11:42
- Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:47
- Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. -
Riceamike,
2014-10-14, 11:42
- lmao at Templar chang -
Korny,
2014-10-13, 17:48
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 18:11
- I seriously don't get some of this - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-13, 18:26
- I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 18:38
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 18:51
- Which is a joke cause the lack of gear end game gear.
- Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 18:54
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 19:05
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 19:20
- I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 19:49
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Korny,
2014-10-14, 01:44
- Objective information is nice - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 08:25
- I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 11:16
- So Halo 2 superbounce was fine?
- Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-14, 06:53
- So Halo 2 superbounce was fine? - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-14, 09:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:24
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 19:31
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:42
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 19:54
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid - DiscipleN2k, 2014-10-14, 11:25
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 19:54
- I've tried the cheese method and it's 10x faster than normal - Riceamike, 2014-10-14, 11:45
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:42
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 19:31
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:08
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:45
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 22:14
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-14, 00:57
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 11:55
- I seriously don't get some of this -
General Vagueness,
2014-10-14, 13:59
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 14:22
- I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-14, 21:26
- I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before - General Vagueness, 2014-10-16, 14:18
- I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-14, 21:26
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 14:22
- I seriously don't get some of this -
General Vagueness,
2014-10-14, 13:59
- I seriously don't get some of this - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 11:55
- I seriously don't get some of this -
General Vagueness,
2014-10-14, 12:30
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Kermit,
2014-10-14, 13:34
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 13:38
- It was too obvious a visual image -
scarab,
2014-10-14, 15:55
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-14, 16:25
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-14, 18:04
- Gaming the system =/= disliking the system, basically - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 20:14
- It was too obvious a visual image - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 19:28
- I did cave farming so I get the point -
scarab,
2014-10-14, 22:44
- I must be an outlier -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-15, 06:54
- Me too (on the other side) -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-15, 08:32
- Ouch - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-15, 09:09
- Me too (on the other side) -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-15, 08:32
- I must be an outlier -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-15, 06:54
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-14, 18:04
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-14, 16:25
- I seriously don't get some of this - Kermit, 2014-10-14, 17:14
- It was too obvious a visual image -
scarab,
2014-10-14, 15:55
- I seriously don't get some of this - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 14:04
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 13:38
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Kermit,
2014-10-14, 13:34
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-14, 00:57
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 22:14
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:45
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 19:20
- Which is a joke cause the lack of gear end game gear.
- I'm not a happy camper! -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 18:52
- I'm not a happy camper! -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 18:57
- I'm not a happy camper! - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 19:14
- lrn 2 reed, campa -
RC,
2014-10-13, 19:24
- Oh I can read! -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:38
- Listen to yourself -
RC,
2014-10-14, 00:36
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 03:48
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:31
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 06:17
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
RC,
2014-10-14, 07:00
- lol whatever you say brah
- Injunfett, 2014-10-14, 07:40
- lol whatever you say brah -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:39
- lol whatever you say brah -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 10:54
- lol whatever you say brah - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 20:29
- lol whatever you say brah -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 10:54
- lol whatever you say brah -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:39
- lol whatever you say brah
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
RC,
2014-10-14, 07:00
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 06:17
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:31
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 03:48
- Listen to yourself -
RC,
2014-10-14, 00:36
- Oh I can read! -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:38
- I'm not a happy camper! -
stabbim,
2014-10-13, 22:12
- Huehuehue
- Korny, 2014-10-14, 01:54
- Huehuehue
- I'm not a happy camper! -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 18:57
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-13, 18:54
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:17
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 08:07
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-14, 16:29
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 22:51
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 03:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
CaneCutter,
2014-10-15, 05:23
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 05:52
- I seriously don't get some of this - CaneCutter, 2014-10-15, 06:15
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 05:52
- I seriously don't get some of this -
CaneCutter,
2014-10-15, 05:23
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 03:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 22:51
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-14, 16:29
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 08:07
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:17
- About that Fallen remark -
ZackDark,
2014-10-13, 18:25
- I'm curious about this, too -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 20:01
- Deej confirmed it was a loot cave joke - Yapok, 2014-10-13, 21:35
- I'm curious about this, too -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 20:01
- Hotfix incoming... - Velociraptor112, 2014-10-13, 18:26
- Pocket Semi-annual -
iconicbanana,
2014-10-14, 08:31
- Pocket Semi-annual -
Korny,
2014-10-14, 10:01
- Pocket Semi-annual -
iconicbanana,
2014-10-14, 10:05
- Speed Reload -
Beorn,
2014-10-15, 07:25
- Speed Reload is perfect - iconicbanana, 2014-10-15, 07:39
- Speed Reload -
Beorn,
2014-10-15, 07:25
- Pocket Semi-annual -
iconicbanana,
2014-10-14, 10:05
- Pocket Semi-annual -
Korny,
2014-10-14, 10:01