You're missing something, Rag. (Destiny)

by Korny , Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Sunday, October 19, 2014, 00:18 (3926 days ago) @ Riceamike

You do kill oracles in the Templar fight, yes. You do kill Praetorians to open the door, yes.

The difference in the Atheon fight is that AS SOON as you get teleported, you're on a timer. The players outside the portal are fighting Supplicants, which are harpies that can home in on you and ONE HIT KILL YOU. The players INSIDE are slowly going BLIND. Their screen filled with darkness to where they can't see anything. If the Relic user doesn't clear out the enemies in time or by chance dies before the grenade meter fills so they can cleanse and release the blind from the players, the party wipes.

I've run through the raid four times, Rag.

According to Bnet, I've done 28 raid runs, completing 12 of them, but it doesn't count times you get dropped or go to orbit to take a break, so I'd say it's really more like 18 runs, completing 12 of them. It does count each time you start the activity as a run, though, I think, as there's been a few times that we have to return to orbit due to a bug or dropped teammate or two.

Still, that's a dozen successful runs, half of them with a team of randoms culled together from the Tower or the LFG.

I've killed Atheon once. That's how difficult it is. Even with a team of 28 through 30's with experience we couldn't even do it. I spent ALL DAY yesterday attempting it to no avail.

It's not that difficult to kill Atheon. In this video, only half of us had completed the raid, and things kept going wrong. The key thing was that two of us knew how to work with the shield, so when one of us died and the other got sent into the past, we didn't miss a beat. All you need is for a few people in the group to practice with the shield. It's okay if you wipe, but you can't complain that you actually have to have some skill in more than one area to beat the raid. And I've done it with teammates who were 26 and 25 (like Revenant).

Your team has to work like clockwork, and assigning teams to do a certain job is what gets you through it. Making this random will eliminate all possibility to plan ahead or an already grueling challenge.

Again, all the plans in the world won't prepare you for the unexpected twists in the raid that happen simply because of gameplay. If it's grueling, it's because you probably suck, or your teammates do. Just gotta practice. Don't be afraid of the shield, and don't be afraid of being on either away or home team.

And you can still work like clockwork. Just because you get pulled into the timestream doesn't mean that YOU have to be the one to grab the shield if another teammate is better with it. quickly analyze the situation, and fill the role you trained for. But you should train for all roles.

I'm sorry you haven't done the raid to experience this, but as someone who has I can't think of a worse idea.

As someone who has done it way more times than you have, and on Hard to boot, I think it's a great idea.