What needs to happen with Destiny 2 (Destiny)

by General Vagueness , The Vault of Sass, Monday, December 08, 2014, 22:29 (3878 days ago) @ Cody Miller

Obviously what needs to happen is for Bungie to shed the MMO genre and ideas completely, or at least innovate like they used to and gut the genre of its failings, which are numerous. I am doubtful that is going to happen, so realistically(some maybe not so much) here is what Destiny 2 needs to do:

Before this even gets going, what definition of "need" are you using here?

1. The multiplayer mode needs to be expanded. At a MINIMUM we need CTF, Oddball, KotH, significantly more maps, custom games, and film support. There should be at least twice as many maps as there are currently with Destiny. Forge would be great, but it's completely understandable to be absent.

I still disagree with this assumption that there's some philosophical or structural reason a map editor would not work or not fit in a game like Destiny.

2. Destiny 2 should be released as one package with no DLC,

There's zero chance of this and you know it.

or the DLC should be designed such that it could have been included in the initial release.

I seriously don't know what that means.

3. The focus should be on content rather than the grind. This means there needs to be a shift from requiring and wanting players to play the same shit over and over, but instead provide more missions, side quests, and other unique things to do.

I agree content should be prioritized, but I don't know that there's level of grind that you and some others could be happy with that's greater than zero.

4. Bounties and Patrol missions need a revamp. Patrol missions should be cut entirely, and bounties should be a merging of the two. Bounties should be more plentiful and diverse, integrated into the story, and not shitty tasks but rather mini missions. Think any sidequest you might have undertook in a game like Deus Ex. Bounties should be given and unlocked not by appearing daily, but by your actions in the game.

I very strongly disagree. Patrol missions are one of the best parts of the game for me.

5. No RNG for gear. RNG for things like polyphages and random unimportant things is fine, but all gear should have specific tasks required in order to get. Either complete a sidequest, a main quest, do something in a certain way, etc. In short, guns and armor should be treated like tools and not rewards, integrated into the progression of the game. Who the fuck cares if everybody has exotics. Exotics should be exotic not because of their rarity, but because of their function.

This would be nice, at least in theory, but it doesn't seem doable for the type of game they're aiming for.

6. The story needs to not suck.

I agree

I feel like 3-5 should help take care of that in terms of the foundational game design, but they still have to write and present something. I hope they are still capable: just tell your current guys to study Halo, or better yet the original Deus Ex.

I'd rather they try to be original than copy things that came before. I know you'll probably say they should copy the quality rather than the content or the themes or the tone, but that's only one step above "make it more awesome".

7. More raids. Raids are the best part, and there should be more. How about 3?

seems reasonable enough

8. The single player missions need to be better. The raid had you doing cool things. Why not get Luke to bring some of that creativity into single player? On playing the new Wolfenstien, I realized how dull the design of Bungie's missions are.

same with this, some shaking up of the game mechanics could be nice

9. Let us go to Saturn. You promised.

No they didn't. They mentioned it once in a presentation of concept art, which doesn't count, and once in a vidoc, which does count as something to base expectations on but I would argue doesn't count as a promise. That said, I want to go to Saturn too.

10. Cut all filler, and don't make me wait for anything.

I'm not even going to read the rest of this item because everyone knows this has no chance of happening.

11. Many alternate paths to max level. Only one way to get to max level, playing the raid, is ridiculous. Yes, even with Iron Banner gear, you still have to play the raid to get the last piece.

That would be nice, yeah.