You're not wrong (Destiny)

by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, June 24, 2015, 21:27 (3672 days ago) @ Kahzgul

Destiny is definitely the best it's ever been right now. It will probably get better. Eventually it may become the game that was advertised to us a full year ago. The ad guys did a terrific job writing checks that the game could not deliver on at launch. I truly hope someone who matters, somewhere that they're in a position to do something about it, learned from that.

I still want to know what was in an advertisement for the game that wasn't delivered on-- not a presentation or video on where they came from or what they considered or what they hoped to include, an advertisement of what the game would include. If they really put false information in an advertisement it would be grounds for a lawsuit, and if there were grounds for a lawsuit one probably would've been filed a long time ago.

Well, it's not like "we promise you 20 raids" or anything like that. I'm talking about things like the "Out here in the wild, this *is* how we talk" clip of in-game footage from the ads. And the interview where the designer said "Destiny is totally open world. If you see a mountain in the distance, you can go there." Saturn. All of the talk of the "epic story" when they really meant "epic setting with very little story." Stuff like that. Things we thought would be in the game, but weren't, things we thought were reasonable to expect from a studio with the reputation Bungie had that we didn't get. Heck, even the VoG wasn't available when the game launched.

it's like buying a car and the guy says it has "air." You think he means air conditioning, but he tells you later he meant the windows roll down. You still got a car, and the guy didn't outright lie, but what you thought you were buying and what you got are not the same thing. It's misleading.

You've been saying they misled forever, and the only item here that seems a tiny bit significant is the story complaint based on Bungie's past history, but that's not based on what they said about Destiny. Leading up to the game I always thought it weird the way DeeJ and others downplayed the campaign story. Their comments seemed a bit obligatory, and was never the leading bullet point in press interviews. I really like that stuff, so of course I was hopeful and assumed (and wanted to assume) that it would be a strong part of the game. I was disappointed, but in retrospect, the subdued way they discussed that aspect made sense.

They made an ambitious game (and they're still making it). At many points along the way they were very humble about what they are trying to do and whether we would like it. It's necessary to pitch a game--you can't be too humble, and yes, it's easy to get the wrong impression especially when that's the impression we want. I can abide expressions of disappointment post-release, but what I can't abide is the hyperbolic expression of every negative, the lack of perspective, and the treatment of every hint, screenshot, or clip a year before release as an iron-clad promise or a deliberate attempt to deceive.

Destiny wasn't the game I hoped for in several ways, but for the most part that's on me. Taking it beyond this thread, it seems now that everyone's feelings are sacrosanct, and if I'm disappointed, I WAS MISLED! If something is priced higher than I want to pay, IT'S UNFAIR! The internet is like a giant, spoiled 5-year-old, and if it can't get a puppy for Christmas this year, everyone must suffer their tantrums.