RIP Loot Cave (Destiny)

by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, September 25, 2014, 11:47 (3521 days ago) @ Schooly D

But ... but ... it's NOT AN EXPLOIT!

It's not. Shooting enemies to get loot is a normal part of the intended Destiny experience. The loot cave phenomenon was just a result of people maximizing their efficiency within the normal parameters of the game.

If the loot cave was an "exploit" then so is using the shotgun (which will be similarly nerfed, based on the dev notes).

This is the cat and mouse game of investment systems.

Players are going to go somewhere else to get their gear. Bungie will respond by making activities give better loot, but then people will just run the most efficient activity repeatedly, and you have the same problem.

Really the only way to win is to not play, and not have random loot and an investment system to begin with. The alternative is to have 30 be the cap forever, and all subsequent games never raise it or require better gear for their activities.

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1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - UnrealCh13f, 2014-09-25, 10:52
- 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 10:55
  - Yeah, that slightly annoyed me. - UnrealCh13f, 2014-09-25, 10:56
    - Yea... - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 10:57
  - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - Speedracer513, 2014-09-25, 10:57
    - Didn't even see that! Edited main post. - UnrealCh13f, 2014-09-25, 10:57
    - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 11:14
      - Happy to hear about AR and SR changes. - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 11:16
        
        Happy to hear about AR and SR changes. - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 11:22
- RIP Loot Cave - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 10:56
  - RIP Loot Cave - Kermit, 2014-09-25, 11:01
    - RIP Loot Cave - breitzen, 2014-09-25, 11:03
      - RIP Loot Cave - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 11:04
        
        +1 - breitzen, 2014-09-25, 11:08
    - RIP Loot Cave - Schooly D, 2014-09-25, 11:12
      - RIP Loot Cave - General Vagueness, 2014-09-25, 11:13
        
        RIP Loot Cave - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 11:16
        
        RIP Loot Cave - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 11:18
        
        RIP Loot Cave - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 11:29
        
        And on the 3rd day... - Schedonnardus, 2014-09-25, 11:37
        
        New city faction confirmed - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 11:38
      - RIP Loot Cave - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 11:47
        
        How about improved Thorn though? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-09-25, 12:02
        
        How about improved Thorn though? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 13:34
        
        How about improved Thorn though? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-09-25, 13:47
        
        How about improved Thorn though? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 14:27
        
        RIP Loot Cave - Earendil, 2014-09-25, 14:55
      - RIP Loot Cave - car15, 2014-09-25, 12:08
  - RIP Loot Cave - JComboBox, 2014-09-25, 11:26
    - Is that you jason? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 11:39
      - Is that you jason? - JComboBox, 2014-09-25, 13:13
        
        Is that you jason? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 13:31
        
        Is that you jason? - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 13:34
        
        As am I. - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-09-25, 13:41
        
        And I as well. - DerekT07, 2014-09-25, 14:22
        
        And my axe! - Mr Daax, 2014-09-25, 19:10
        
        Is that you jason? - Kermit, 2014-09-25, 13:58
    - RIP Loot Cave - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 11:41
      - RIP Loot Cave - JComboBox, 2014-09-25, 13:23
        
        RIP Loot Cave - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 13:33
- It's nice to read those dev notes - Zeouterlimits, 2014-09-25, 11:01
  - Seriously. Bad Juju might still have a chance! - TDSpiral, 2014-09-25, 11:08
    - Too bad I dismantled my thorn. - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 11:49
      - Too bad I dismantled my thorn. - Korny, 2014-09-26, 00:34
        
        Too bad I dismantled my thorn. - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 00:38
        
        Too bad I dismantled my thorn. - Korny, 2014-09-26, 00:45
        
        Too bad I dismantled my thorn. - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 00:49
- Dude, that's crap - RC, 2014-09-25, 11:07
  - Dude, that's crap - TDSpiral, 2014-09-25, 11:18
  - Dude, that's crap - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 11:20
    - Dude, that's crap - Kahzgul, 2014-09-25, 11:32
      - Dude, that's crap - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 11:43
      - Dude, that's crap - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 11:51
      - RAGE SHARDING LOL - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 11:53
        
        RAGE SHARDING LOL - RC, 2014-09-25, 12:01
        
        Really should have at least made them give faction XP - SIX min WHISTLE, 2014-09-25, 19:08
    - Dude, that's crap - RC, 2014-09-25, 11:58
      - Dude, that's crap - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 12:00
        
        Dude, that's crap - RC, 2014-09-25, 12:06
        
        Dude, that's crap - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 12:11
        
        Dude, that's crap - uberfoop, 2014-09-25, 12:15
        
        +1 - Speedracer513, 2014-09-25, 12:34
        
        Dude, that's crap - General Vagueness, 2014-09-25, 16:45
        
        Dude, that's crap - bluerunner, 2014-09-25, 12:15
        
        Dude, that's crap - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 12:19
        
        Dude, that's crap - SigbiasSilva, 2014-09-25, 12:28
        
        Dude, that's crap - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 13:06
        
        Dude, that's crap - RC, 2014-09-25, 13:27
        
        100% agree with that - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 13:32
        
        Light level upgrades - Earendil, 2014-09-25, 14:53
- 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 11:10
  - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-09-25, 11:58
    - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 12:18
      - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-09-25, 12:24
- YOU LEAVE MY SHOTTY ALONE BUNGIE - Revenant1988, 2014-09-25, 11:23
  - MY FUSION RIFLE JUST BECAME MORE POWERFUL! - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 11:24
    - MY FUSION RIFLE JUST BECAME MORE POWERFUL! - Blackt1g3r, 2014-09-25, 12:42
      - MY FUSION RIFLE JUST BECAME MORE POWERFUL! - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 12:56
  - AND GET OFF MY LAWN! - LostSpartan, 2014-09-25, 11:30
  - YOU LEAVE MY SHOTTY ALONE BUNGIE - Kahzgul, 2014-09-25, 11:33
    - YOU LEAVE MY SHOTTY ALONE BUNGIE - someotherguy, 2014-09-25, 17:10
  - Gon' find my shotty, gon' hold her tight - MrPadraig08, 2014-09-25, 11:50
- RIP Loot Cave 2014-2014 - LostSpartan, 2014-09-25, 11:25
- Patches + Investment can be dangerous - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 11:45
  - Agreed - Earendil, 2014-09-25, 13:15
    - Agreed - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 15:26
      - It's also worth noting - Earendil, 2014-09-25, 15:38
  - Screwed my spreadsheet - someotherguy, 2014-09-25, 17:16
    - Screwed my spreadsheet - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 17:20
      - On the bright side - Some helpful tips - someotherguy, 2014-09-25, 17:54
        
        On the bright side - Some helpful tips - ZackDark, 2014-09-26, 05:33
        
        No worries. Will post more as a topic eventually - someotherguy, 2014-09-26, 12:36
    - Screwed my spreadsheet - ZackDark, 2014-09-25, 17:27
      - Screwed my spreadsheet - someotherguy, 2014-09-25, 17:57
- Le Cryptarch est mort; vive le Cryptarch! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-09-25, 11:53
- How decrypting should work - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 11:57
  - How decrypting should work - Yapok, 2014-09-25, 12:02
  - Agreed. - bluerunner, 2014-09-25, 12:03
  - Why have the colors at all? - Revenant1988, 2014-09-25, 12:15
    - Why have the colors at all? - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-25, 12:21
    - Why have the colors at all? - Jabberwok, 2014-09-25, 12:28
      - Why have the colors at all? - Revenant1988, 2014-09-25, 12:33
  - Brilliant solution. - Kermit, 2014-09-25, 12:32
  - Sounds good to me. - ShadowOfTheVoid, 2014-09-25, 12:41
  - I concur with this - HuskerAlpha, 2014-09-25, 12:53
  - Yep - I Agree completely - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-09-25, 14:35
  - How decrypting should work - General Vagueness, 2014-09-25, 23:37
- 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Jabberwok, 2014-09-25, 12:23
  - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 12:27
    - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-09-25, 14:38
      - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Xenos, 2014-09-25, 14:41
      - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Jabberwok, 2014-09-25, 15:05
        
        *IMG* 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-09-25, 15:14
        
        That's nothing - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 15:37
        
        Wow. - Ragashingo, 2014-09-25, 15:47
        
        That's why I don't begrudge Bungie the upcoming nerfing. - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-09-25, 15:51
        
        Shadow Price - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 17:31
        
        1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - someotherguy, 2014-09-25, 17:59
        
        1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Xenos, 2014-09-26, 12:51
  - 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Cody Miller, 2014-09-25, 15:32
- 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - Ragashingo, 2014-09-25, 12:42
- I hope they lower the accuracy on my Sahara! - uberfoop, 2014-09-25, 13:30
- I like how Monochron just ignored this thread :D - ZackDark, 2014-09-25, 14:10
- Question - rliebherr, 2014-09-25, 17:37
  - Question - Ragashingo, 2014-09-25, 18:18
  - Question - Xenos, 2014-09-26, 12:53
- They want to nerf AR and shotty but not Fusion Rifle? - Avateur, 2014-09-25, 19:30
- Positive changes to Cryptarch... - Velociraptor112, 2014-09-25, 20:06
- 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - General Vagueness, 2014-09-25, 23:44
- 1.0.1.5 Patch Notes + Dev Notes - General Vagueness, 2014-09-25, 23:45

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