19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. (Destiny)
Bungie has gone through a lot of iterations regarding special ammo since Destiny launched, and even more regarding how "special weapons" function, in terms of their lethality in the Crucible.
And I can't help but feel like it's because Bungie is trying to fit these weapons into a roll that they weren't designed for in the first place.
With the exception of sidearms (which are an anomaly), Special weapons serve as 1-Hit-Kill tools in the correct situations. The chief issue is, at one point or another throughout Destiny's lifespan, players have figured out how to abuse the power of these weapons by broadening the 1HK situations to cover engagements which were outside what was intended by the designers.
And it makes for a very frustrating game.
I'm not sure how Bungie drew the line between "Heavy" weapons and "special" weapons. They're all power weapons with varying strengths and weaknesses. And they all have situations where they can out-gun their counterparts.
Perhaps this is nostalgia speaking, but I feel like the sandbox designers for Halo understood this. The only gametypes that had you starting with "power" weapons were novelty weapon-specific gametypes where everyone used 1-2 specific weapons and ONLY those weapons.
The argument could be made that these weapons are more suited to Destiny because the Time-to-kill with "primary" weapons is lower, but time-to-kill is it's own beast that I'm not trying to cover here.
So my question is for you all is this: which of the following systems would you most like to see used in Des2ny?
- Stay the course- Keep Destiny's 3-gun system, and keep tweaking "specials" as needed.
- Same as above, but limit special ammo to feel as rare and valuable as heavy.
- Merge "Heavies" and "Specials" into a single weapon category, and adjust ammo drops to compensate. (eg. Auto-rifle & Sniper, scout-rifle & shotgun, pulse-rifle & Rocket launcher, etc.)
- Same as above, but give players another equip-able primary slot, allowing them to adapt to different situations without needing a complimentary "special weapon". (eg. Hand-cannon, scout-rifle, & LMG)
- Something else not listed here?
After thinking about it a little, I'd really like to see how options 2 or 4 would play out.
Complete thread:
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-26, 15:18
- Controversial Alternative -
BeardFade,
2016-04-26, 15:48
- Controversial Alternative - Kahzgul, 2016-04-26, 15:56
- Controversial Alternative -
dogcow,
2016-04-26, 15:57
- Controversial Alternative - BeardFade, 2016-04-26, 16:00
- Controversial Alternative -
slycrel,
2016-04-26, 17:30
- I agree, my suggestion was PvP biased - BeardFade, 2016-04-26, 17:44
- Controversial Alternative -
red robber,
2016-04-26, 21:21
- Controversial Alternative -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 21:28
- Controversial Alternative -
red robber,
2016-04-26, 21:40
- Huh? You're supporting his point with that... - ZackDark, 2016-04-26, 22:03
- Controversial Alternative -
red robber,
2016-04-26, 21:40
- Controversial Alternative -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 21:28
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
red robber,
2016-04-26, 21:35
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
stabbim,
2016-04-27, 14:07
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 14:11
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
BeardFade,
2016-04-27, 14:22
- Sounds interesting. I'll try it out once I level them up. - ZackDark, 2016-04-27, 15:06
- Sidearms are beastly in PvP -
WildthingVII,
2016-04-27, 16:31
- That was dirty -
unoudid,
2016-04-27, 18:04
- Also, that second guy can't hit jack -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 18:26
- Yes, I should have died... - WildthingVII, 2016-04-27, 20:01
- Also, that second guy can't hit jack -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 18:26
- That melee range is ridiculous. Gotta be 15-20 feet there. - BeardFade, 2016-04-27, 19:21
- Yes they are -
bluerunner,
2016-04-27, 19:32
- Yes they are - Xenos, 2016-04-29, 13:14
- Sidearms are beastly in PvP -
Argent_17,
2016-04-29, 11:52
- Sidearms are beastly in PvP - WildthingVII, 2016-04-29, 13:50
- That was dirty -
unoudid,
2016-04-27, 18:04
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
BeardFade,
2016-04-27, 14:22
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 14:11
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-27, 14:26
- Nah. Just let it drop. - Funkmon, 2016-04-27, 14:40
- Best Idea in 19 months. -
stabbim,
2016-04-27, 14:07
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 15:49
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-26, 15:53
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. - dogcow, 2016-04-26, 16:01
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. - Blackt1g3r, 2016-04-26, 16:24
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-26, 15:53
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
squidnh3,
2016-04-26, 15:51
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 15:52
- Auto-rifles would like a word with you. - CyberKN, 2016-04-26, 15:53
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 15:52
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-26, 15:53
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 16:07
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
ZackDark,
2016-04-26, 16:50
- Random ammo drops -
CyberKN,
2016-04-26, 17:03
- But now Specials are powerhouse power-weapons -
ZackDark,
2016-04-26, 17:30
- But now Specials are powerhouse power-weapons -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-26, 17:46
- I think we were discussing PvE there, but I agree - ZackDark, 2016-04-26, 19:12
- But now Specials are powerhouse power-weapons -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-26, 17:46
- But now Specials are powerhouse power-weapons -
ZackDark,
2016-04-26, 17:30
- Random ammo drops -
CyberKN,
2016-04-26, 17:03
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
ZackDark,
2016-04-26, 16:50
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-26, 16:07
- Divorce PvP and PvE -
unoudid,
2016-04-26, 16:40
- This. - ProbablyLast, 2016-04-27, 03:16
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. - Mid7night, 2016-04-26, 18:47
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
Xenos,
2016-04-27, 15:24
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 15:27
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
BeardFade,
2016-04-27, 15:53
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 16:10
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
ZackDark,
2016-04-27, 16:21
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. - CyberKN, 2016-04-27, 16:56
- A deeply held belief of mine... -
Korny,
2016-04-27, 16:26
- Nah, we're still playing on console, we need aim assist -
ZackDark,
2016-04-27, 17:31
- Plenty of console games have no aim assist. - Korny, 2016-04-27, 17:43
- Nah, we're still playing on console, we need aim assist -
ZackDark,
2016-04-27, 17:31
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-27, 16:43
- Don't make me disown you Claude -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 16:55
- :D - Claude Errera, 2016-04-27, 17:13
- Don't make me disown you Claude -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 16:55
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
ZackDark,
2016-04-27, 16:21
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 16:10
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. - Funkmon, 2016-04-27, 17:24
- I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren't adjusted correctly. -
BeardFade,
2016-04-27, 15:53
- 19 months in, I'm still skeptical of Destiny's 3-gun system. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-27, 15:27
- Controversial Alternative -
BeardFade,
2016-04-26, 15:48