This is another reason not to pre-order (Destiny)

by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 13:40 (3078 days ago) @ Cody Miller

You can buy the game the next day and still get home before the servers are up, but you'll have missed the rage-inducing failure of the company to adequately plan for the massive influx of new logins.

This is also another reason why staggered launches are easier to manage than releasing something to the entire world all at once.

Some of the reactions in this thread are more rage-inducing to me than any failure on Bungie's part.

It's perfectly justified. Travel back in time to 1985 and tell someone you have to wait in line to play a game on your home console. They would laugh and call you crazy.

Because it is crazy, and people who are okay with it are bad people and not helping.

I didn't say people should be okay with it. There's plenty of good people who were frustrated, I'm sure. The very best people, though, the most helpful people are those who rushed to the internet to post snark.

You want to hear some crazy stuff about 1985? No stores selling games were open at 5 am and if they were, you'd still have to drive back home. When you did, maybe your game didn't work. Without Twitter all you could do (after you tried blowing on the cartridge of course) was call your buddy down the street to see if his copy worked. You then drove back to the store and they told you to take it up with Nintendo. You mailed it back on your dime. Six to eight weeks later you got a replacement.

One good thing about 1985: it was much easier to avoid others' whining, cynicism, sarcasm, and self-righteousness.

Personal note: I didn't plan to but I woke up at 5 a.m. to the alert on my Xbox that ROI was now available. I also was disappointed that the servers were down. Got back on around 7:30 am and everything was fine. A tiny blip as far as my Destiny experience goes. People are excited to play, and I can understand their frustration. I felt that, too, and I also felt some compassion for the IT people at Bungie, and hoped that this wasn't a DNS attack or some major hardware failure that couldn't be foreseen. I could do armchair quarterbacking, but I know nothing about it and I think it's presumptive to assume this was some kind of failure of planning on Bungie's part. You can't plan for everything. Individuals make mistakes. Shit happens. Also: these are game servers we're talking about here, not life support systems.

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Servers Unavailable - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 07:08
- Servers Unavailable - narcogen, 2016-09-20, 07:09
  - Servers Unavailable - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 07:10
    - Servers Unavailable - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 07:11
    - Servers Unavailable - uberfoop, 2016-09-20, 07:23
- Servers Unavailable - Morpheus, 2016-09-20, 07:26
  - Servers Unavailable - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 07:29
    - Servers Unavailable - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 07:34
    - Servers Unavailable - Morpheus, 2016-09-20, 07:45
- Itapirs they're having some trouble - someotherguy, 2016-09-20, 07:30
  - Destiny: Rise of Tapir - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 07:34
- At least you can try the theme, - TheeChaos, 2016-09-20, 07:40
  - At least you can try the theme, - Korny, 2016-09-20, 10:56
- There's a queue - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 07:47
  - There's a queue - narcogen, 2016-09-20, 07:48
    - There's a queue - BlackstarBSP, 2016-09-20, 07:51
      - There's a queue - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 07:51
    - There's a queue - Morpheus, 2016-09-20, 07:55
  - Got booted, now I'm at 140,089 :-( - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 07:53
    - 144,762. I'm Soloing The Raid! - Morpheus, 2016-09-20, 07:57
  - MY PEOPLE - someotherguy, 2016-09-20, 07:56
    - Ha, even the queue is broken - someotherguy, 2016-09-20, 08:00
      - Ha, even the queue is broken - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 08:08
  - There's a queue - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-20, 07:58
  - Booted again! NOW at 212,627 - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 08:04
    - Same here. 234,150 - narcogen, 2016-09-20, 08:07
      - Gotcha beat - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 08:13
  - Something to watch while waiting... - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 08:06
  - 270,000th in line ATM - CyberKN, 2016-09-20, 08:16
    - 331,518 I think I'm in the lead... - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 08:26
      - Joke's on you, I can't even queue anymore - CyberKN, 2016-09-20, 08:30
- This is another reason not to pre-order - Kahzgul, 2016-09-20, 08:01
  - Go back to bed, America - someotherguy, 2016-09-20, 08:09
  - This is another reason not to pre-order - Kermit, 2016-09-20, 08:12
    - This is another reason not to pre-order - narcogen, 2016-09-20, 08:45
    - This is another reason not to pre-order - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 08:47
      - This is another reason not to pre-order - kidtsunami, 2016-09-20, 09:58
        
        This is another reason not to pre-order - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 10:06
        
        This is another reason not to pre-order - kidtsunami, 2016-09-21, 11:25
        
        This is another reason not to pre-order - cheapLEY, 2016-09-20, 16:49
        
        This game would not exist if 'OFFLINE' was an option - kidtsunami, 2016-09-21, 11:25
      - This is another reason not to pre-order - Kermit, 2016-09-21, 13:40
        
        This is another reason not to pre-order - Korny, 2016-09-21, 14:00
        
        This is another reason not to pre-order - Kermit, 2016-09-21, 14:50
  - This is another reason not to pre-order - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 08:44
    - This is another reason not to pre-order - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 08:48
      - This is another reason not to pre-order - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 08:51
        
        This is another reason not to pre-order - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 08:58
        
        The screen literally says "at capacity" - CyberKN, 2016-09-20, 09:05
        
        I tend to believe it is artificial because of what Raga said - ZackDark, 2016-09-20, 12:04
        
        I tend to believe it is artificial because of what Raga said - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 12:12
        
        The screen literally says "at capacity" - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 12:08
        
        The screen literally says "at capacity" - Revenant1988, 2016-09-20, 12:59
    - This is another reason not to pre-order - Kahzgul, 2016-09-20, 16:57
  - This is another reason not to pre-order - Vortech, 2016-09-20, 15:09
    - +1 - breitzen, 2016-09-20, 15:37
      - Logic undermines my argument. Can we stop using it? - Kahzgul, 2016-09-20, 16:51
        
        Haha. Sure ;) - breitzen, 2016-09-20, 18:37
- Has anyone actually gotten in? - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 08:10
  - Funk literally got directly in. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-20, 08:16
    - Do we have one queue or two? - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 08:21
      - Its a race to 1 mil - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 08:21
    - Funk literally got directly in. - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 08:21
      - By lying about it. He's in line with all of us, I'm sure. - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 08:23
        
        He's the only one on my friend's list playing the game. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-20, 08:27
        
        All right asshole. - Funkmon, 2016-09-20, 08:32
        
        Hacks!!!! - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 08:32
        
        I wish my queue was that pretty. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-20, 08:33
        
        This is why I don't make bets to eat stuff if I'm wrong. ;) - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 08:35
        
        What I did: loaded the demo version. - Funkmon, 2016-09-20, 08:50
- Destiny is featured game on Twitch - ZackDark, 2016-09-20, 08:23
- Year 3 MoT - unoudid, 2016-09-20, 08:30
  - Heh. My shirt is still in a queue too it seems :p - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 08:33
    - Got mine late last week. - dogcow, 2016-09-20, 13:19
      - When did you order? - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 13:32
        
        August 5th, customized. - dogcow, 2016-09-20, 13:35
  - Year 3 MoT - Kermit, 2016-09-21, 13:44
    - No shirt for you! - Ragashingo, 2016-09-21, 13:58
- Servers Unavailable - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 08:33
  - Kicked out of queue - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 08:56
  - Servers Unavailable - Korny, 2016-09-20, 10:59
- No Bungie.net access - Cody Miller, 2016-09-20, 08:49
- I got in! Selected my Warlock, then promptly got booted. - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 09:02
  - Finally in for real this time. - naturl selexion, 2016-09-20, 09:10
- Servers Unavailable - Kuga, 2016-09-20, 11:43
- Early Adopters. lol, suckers - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-20, 12:34
  - Yep! :p - Ragashingo, 2016-09-20, 12:38
  - Tapir in Portuguese is also slang for dumb af :D - ZackDark, 2016-09-20, 13:36
- Servers Unavailable - Morpheus, 2016-09-20, 15:12

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