
Change to patrol areas is a major + (Destiny)
So it looks like they are making patrol areas larger, adding NPCs into patrol areas, as well as outposts and such. This is a major improvement that is almost required to give players a reason to care about their characters.
The pre-mission voice overs and patrol beacons have always been a stop gap, a poor way to put characters into the game when the spaces are too small to reasonably fit some NPCs. If you look at Skyrim, Warcraft etc the random discovery of NPCs in the wild are some of the best interactions and springboards for quests.
Expanding the patrol areas and having outposts and NPCs hidden around them is a major improvement, and should not be overlooked. Expanding patrol to 6 -12 people, adding more complicated and involved patrol quests and public events, more vehicles, etc, will make D2 the go to game.
Changing the subclasses, and adding meaningful race customization would necessitate a "reset" of player characters. How they accomplish this is key. You can go the ME route, and offer the player a chance to change their character to a new class, or move them to the closest approximation of their old one, as part of the story. If they go that route they probably will be the most successful.
I think gear is the smallest concern. With the exception of some of the more iconic weapons like the Mythoclast, Necrochasm, GH and the like, there are few weapons that have been preserved since vanilla. If they keep the handful of these more iconic weapons, then a massive change to gear would be ok, especially if those iconic weapons remain for D1 players as a reward for their long hours raiding.
I think the main mistake Bungie made was making exotics drop randomly as rewards. While people like random loot, the sense of working towards a exotic quest goal added lots of value to a particular weapon, or at least affection for it.
Complete thread:
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-27, 19:41
- Line in the sand: I will not maintain nine characters. -
Kermit,
2016-09-27, 19:49
- LOL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-27, 20:16
- Line in the sand: I will not maintain fifteen characters. - unoudid, 2016-09-27, 20:25
- LOL
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-27, 19:58
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-27, 21:05
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-27, 21:21
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Cody Miller, 2016-09-27, 21:36
- +1 - cheapLEY, 2016-09-27, 23:36
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-27, 22:32
- +1
- INSANEdrive, 2016-09-28, 02:19
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - dogcow, 2016-09-28, 14:33
- +1
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-27, 21:21
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - INSANEdrive, 2016-09-28, 02:14
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
dogcow,
2016-09-28, 18:19
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-28, 21:25
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
uberfoop,
2016-09-28, 21:40
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-28, 22:17
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
uberfoop,
2016-09-28, 22:58
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-29, 06:03
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
uberfoop,
2016-09-29, 15:49
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Kahzgul, 2016-09-30, 16:28
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
uberfoop,
2016-09-29, 15:49
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-29, 06:03
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
uberfoop,
2016-09-28, 22:58
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-28, 22:17
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
dogcow,
2016-09-29, 13:25
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Kahzgul, 2016-09-30, 16:29
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
uberfoop,
2016-09-28, 21:40
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Kahzgul,
2016-09-28, 21:25
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-27, 21:05
- Going to stay on D1 - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-27, 20:24
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-27, 21:01
- You didn't already know this? - marmot 1333, 2016-09-27, 22:10
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-27, 23:15
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - dogcow, 2016-09-28, 14:37
- Walt, Destiny 2s story was rebooted in April? -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-27, 23:19
- Walt, Destiny 2s story was rebooted in April? - dogcow, 2016-09-28, 14:39
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Avateur, 2016-09-27, 23:22
- If i cant take my characters i will move to Canada ... - Old Fire Thief, 2016-09-27, 23:35
- Sounds amazing! - cheapLEY, 2016-09-27, 23:53
- Fine by me. Hope we can import our shaders/emblems though
- someotherguy, 2016-09-28, 00:45
- Naw, leave everything behind!
- Cody Miller, 2016-09-28, 01:09
- Hopefully shaders are gone and we can just pick our colors.
- cheapLEY, 2016-09-28, 01:18
- Damn right
- Avateur, 2016-09-28, 01:47
- This guy gets it.
- CyberKN, 2016-09-28, 12:05
- Damn right
- Hope we won't have to.
- uberfoop, 2016-09-28, 01:29
- Naw, leave everything behind!
- Oh! To be a fly, on the wall. - INSANEdrive, 2016-09-28, 02:00
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Mad_Stylus, 2016-09-28, 02:22
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters - Morpheus, 2016-09-28, 04:38
- Change to patrol areas is a major + - Durandal, 2016-09-28, 11:18
- As long as XBone/PC characters are shared -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-28, 11:20
- As long as XBone/PC characters are shared -
EffortlessFury,
2016-09-28, 12:29
- As long as XBone/PC characters are shared - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-28, 12:31
- As long as XBone/PC characters are shared - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-28, 13:07
- As long as XBone/PC characters are shared -
EffortlessFury,
2016-09-28, 12:29
- kotaku: Destiny 2, begin the hype & unrealistic expectations -
dogcow,
2016-09-28, 12:41
- kotaku: Destiny 2, begin the hype & unrealistic expectations -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-28, 13:10
- kotaku: Destiny 2, begin the hype & unrealistic expectations - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-28, 13:16
- kotaku: Destiny 2, begin the hype & unrealistic expectations - cheapLEY, 2016-09-28, 16:33
- kotaku: Destiny 2, begin the hype & unrealistic expectations -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-28, 13:10
- Yay! - electricpirate, 2016-09-28, 12:41
- plot twist - Schedonnardus, 2016-09-28, 13:15
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Harmanimus,
2016-09-28, 14:26
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-28, 17:57
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Harmanimus,
2016-09-29, 00:03
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
dogcow,
2016-09-29, 12:55
- Simple Fix ;) -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-29, 16:14
- Simple Fix ;) ^ I love this comment. lol :)
- dogcow, 2016-09-29, 16:15
- Simple Fix ;) ^ I love this comment. lol :)
- Simple Fix ;) -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-29, 16:14
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
dogcow,
2016-09-29, 12:55
- Small is the new big -
narcogen,
2016-09-29, 06:06
- Small is the new big -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-29, 12:39
- Small is the new big -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-29, 13:41
- Small is the new big -
narcogen,
2016-09-29, 13:57
- Small is the new big -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-29, 14:08
- Small is the new big - MacAddictXIV, 2016-09-29, 14:12
- Small is the new big -
dogcow,
2016-09-29, 14:55
- Small is the new big - cheapLEY, 2016-09-29, 15:00
- Small is the new big -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-29, 15:20
- Small is the new big - cheapLEY, 2016-09-29, 15:27
- Small is the new big -
dogcow,
2016-09-29, 18:23
- Small is the new big -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-29, 18:59
- Small is the new big - dogcow, 2016-09-29, 19:05
- Small is the new big -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-29, 18:59
- Small is the new big - Cody Miller, 2016-09-29, 15:19
- Small is the new big -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-29, 14:08
- Small is the new big -
narcogen,
2016-09-29, 13:57
- Small is the new big -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-29, 13:41
- Small is the new big -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-29, 12:39
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Harmanimus,
2016-09-29, 00:03
- kotaku: Destiny 2 for PC, won't carry over year 1 characters -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-28, 17:57
- Maybe D1 was just a Vex Simulation -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-29, 16:13
- Maybe Mister Chef wakes up on the FUD in Halo 6
- uberfoop, 2016-09-29, 17:12
- And in the distant sun, the W'rkncacnter dreams softly.
- Quirel, 2016-09-30, 02:37
- I'm pretty sure we nuked him once already... - Durandal, 2016-09-30, 13:31
- And in the distant sun, the W'rkncacnter dreams softly.
- Maybe Mister Chef wakes up on the FUD in Halo 6
- Line in the sand: I will not maintain nine characters. -
Kermit,
2016-09-27, 19:49