Chappy's non-DBO group strat (Destiny)

by Chappy, Arlington, VA., Wednesday, April 05, 2017, 12:39 (2880 days ago) @ Chappy
edited by Chappy, Wednesday, April 05, 2017, 12:49

As is probably true for all challenges, timing and communication are key here.

There should be at least 4 guardians willing and able to grab the relic as soon as they're teleported - they should call out the teleport location ("Mars" or "Venus") immediately. The relic holder should take out the adds in the center. If it's Venus, they should get help from the other two guardians (golden gun, rocket, sleeper or grenade preferred in that order) for the Minotaur. After killing the adds, the relic holder should cleanse the other two guardians and move to the gateway. The remaining two people teleported should coordinate killing the first two oracles. It's better if each focuses on a single oracle, rather than risking killing a second. "I'll get the first oracle, you get the second" should be enough for them to manage the first two. As soon as these oracles are down, they should get their cleanse and run back though the gateway. Once though, these guardians should take out supplicants and get in position to work on Atheon. They'll slowly be going blind, and may be completely blind before time's vengance starts.

For the three guardians on the outside, they need to move directly to the left or right plate to build the gateway as soon as possible. With three positioned at each plate at the start of the battle, the odds favor at least one being in position already. As they're moving into position, one should call out that they'll stay be the last guardian through the gate. The other two should run through the gateway immediately. The guardian staying behind should focus on killing Supplicants, until he hears one or both of the first two guardians call out that they're back thought the gate. As soon as they're back, the last guardian should run into the gateway.

The two guardians that run through the gateway immediately should be ready to kill the third and fourth Oracle that spawn. They should coordinate who shoots which one (just as with the first two guardians) - either "I'll get the third one" or "I'll get the one on the right" should work. At this point, the relic holder should already be moving toward them to give them a cleanse. As soon as the 3rd and 4th oracles are down and they've gotten a cleanse, they should run back through the gateway. As with the first two, they should get in position for Atheon and kill supplicants while they wait (and while they go blind).

The relic holder kills the fifth oracle with the relic super (which should have charged sometime between the 3rd and 4th oracle), then moves through the gateway to the Atheon DPS position to cleanse the guardians that should be waiting there.

The last guardian through should kill the last oracle (starting time's vengeance) and run back through the gateway to the DPS position (where they'll get their cleanse).

Quick Oracle kills are key. A close Sleeper shot will do it (at range you'll need to finish with a sniper or primary). Rockets work too, but might require a finishing burst from a primary. A full sniper clip will also work, but you should save that ammo for Atheon. Primaries are slow but barely usable.

With good timing, the fireteam will have at least 25 seconds of time's vengeance to DPS Atheon - it starts when the last guardian kills his oracle. Sleepers, Tethers, Snipers, Viking funeral grenades, and nighthawk golden guns work great. The fireteam should be able to down Atheon in two cycles, but if the DPS is low it'll take three.

Atheon DPS location - this is where my friends and I are "wrong", but it works for us. Almost all fire teams move to the floating center platform to DPS Atheon. We've always found that to be a troublesome spot (missed blind jumps mostly), so instead we use the back center of the room (where we originally enter). We pop a Weapons bubble on the teleport side when the titan returns (but not in a position where it will block shots at Supplicants). We keep an eye out for nearby Supplicants during reloads, and kill any that are a risk as we DPS.

The relic holder killing the 5th oracle is something we worked out last night. Strategies on reddit recommend the 3rd oracle, but the super isn't always charged at that point, and the relic runner should really be focused on getting the first two guardians cleansed so they can leave and the last guardian can enter. The first two guardians in via the gateway should get there in time to kill oracle #3 and #4 anyway. The relic runner can focus on getting in position to cleanse the first two guardians through the gateway, and then kill the next oracle that appears (#5). If they miss with the super, the 5th oracle is close enough to be killed by a jump slam (just do it before the last oracle spawns or you'll risk killing both).