CRU folks are kind of ignoring pro-pipes in the meta. (Destiny)

by Malagate , Sea of Tranquility, Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 09:26 (2136 days ago) @ Cody Miller

I feel like it's the single-most versatile weapon type in the game. Close or long range, catching enemies by surprise or in a heated firefight, face-to-face or around corners, the pro-pipe archetype for grenade launchers can (in the right hands) have a real advantage over any other Heavy (and most primaries). When you combine it with your primary, it just becomes that much more devastating than most 1-HK weapons in Crucible.

In my experience that's just not true. His 'splash then swap' strategy eats valuable time while you are being shot. If someone slides in or goes airborne on you, a direct hit is unlikely so you will have to settle for splash. Anyone who is mobile and aggressive will shred you. In his clips I see folks keeping their distance to challenge which is exactly what not to do against these things.

There are quickswap weapons that help with this if you're not great with the pro-pipe and you feel like draw time is a significant factor. People in the air are less a threat against one than you think. That argument in particular is weak because nothing offers the control against airborne targets like a timed detonation.

Orewing's specifically will grant 1-HK very frequently, and when they don't, a follow up round usually does the trick. A lot of the time, the initial blast is enough to spook them into a retreat, because they know the targeted fire hasn't even begun, and they're already significantly behind. If the enemy is in range at all, including around a corner, they're in danger. It's also a great finisher for enemies that have put geometry between themselves and you in order to evade and regen. It's a threat in all types of weather.

I just don't get why you don't experiment with them yourself and see. If you won't accept anyone else's experience as viable intel, embrace the scientific method yourself. It's ok if you can't bring yourself to publicly appreciate them. I know that would be asking too much.