Just like Diablo II gear… (Destiny)
They always incentivize gaming the system and optimization over just enjoying the experience.
Damn straight!
In a perfect world, there would be a great many "optimal builds" that would allow for fluid dynamics and fast-shifting landscapes. If done wrong, everyone will settle on one or two builds and it'll be boring boring boring.It would be awesome if many are viable...if build types support a variety of emergent play styles and strategies. That's going to take some really good balancing by Bungie, though. I'm not sure what's feasible or even possible.
But that only works if the game itself is the reward. You make a different build, because you want to play the game differently! When you revolve a game around an investment system to build your character (as destiny will with the items pushing you past the level cap), you encourage players to behave in a way to optimize the system.
Complete thread:
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 09:57
- It's... so... beautiful.... -
MrPadraig08,
2014-07-31, 10:15
- It's... so... beautiful.... -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 10:23
- It's... so... beautiful.... - MrPadraig08, 2014-07-31, 11:07
- It's... so... beautiful.... -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 10:23
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 10:16
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action -
Doooskey,
2014-07-31, 14:00
- Triple-dipping: now 50% better than double-dipping! -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 15:13
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 15:48
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 15:53
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:14
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 16:52
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:57
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 17:01
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Doooskey,
2014-07-31, 17:10
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 17:15
- Just like Diablo II gear… - DaDerga, 2014-07-31, 17:33
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
NotTheVacuum,
2014-08-01, 04:26
- Just like Diablo II gear… - kapowaz, 2014-08-01, 05:08
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 17:27
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 18:03
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 18:05
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 19:30
- Just like Diablo II gear… - Cody Miller, 2014-07-31, 20:14
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 19:30
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
RaichuKFM,
2014-07-31, 20:03
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 20:15
- Just like Diablo II gear… - RaichuKFM, 2014-07-31, 22:33
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 20:15
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
RC,
2014-08-01, 04:36
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 05:00
- Just like Diablo II gear… - RC, 2014-08-01, 05:08
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Kermit,
2014-08-01, 05:14
- Ugh! - DaDerga, 2014-08-01, 05:19
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Yapok,
2014-08-01, 05:23
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 09:46
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
RaichuKFM,
2014-08-01, 14:36
- Just like Diablo II gear… - kapowaz, 2014-08-01, 14:47
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 15:58
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Xenos,
2014-08-01, 16:04
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 16:07
- Just like Diablo II gear… - General Vagueness, 2014-08-01, 16:26
- There is a balance... -
Doooskey,
2014-08-02, 11:55
- Then You Are The Chosen One... - DaDerga, 2014-08-02, 12:05
- There is a balance... - Kalamari, 2014-08-02, 12:23
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 16:07
- Just like Diablo II gear… - General Vagueness, 2014-08-01, 16:25
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Xenos,
2014-08-01, 16:04
- Just like Diablo II gear… - General Vagueness, 2014-08-01, 15:16
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
RaichuKFM,
2014-08-01, 14:36
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 09:46
- Just like Diablo II gear… - JDQuackers, 2014-08-01, 05:46
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-01, 05:00
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 18:05
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-31, 18:03
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 17:15
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Doooskey,
2014-07-31, 17:10
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 17:01
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:57
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 16:52
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 16:14
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 15:53
- Triple-dipping: now banned in 3 Countries... - Doooskey, 2014-07-31, 16:50
- Just like Diablo II gear… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 15:48
- Triple-dipping: now 50% better than double-dipping! -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 15:13
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action -
Doooskey,
2014-07-31, 14:00
- Level 20! Wait, 29? Okay! -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 10:19
- Level cap in Expansions -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 10:23
- Level cap in Expansions -
JDQuackers,
2014-07-31, 11:28
- I think I get it... -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 11:38
- I think I get it... - JDQuackers, 2014-07-31, 12:03
- I think I get it... -
Xenos,
2014-07-31, 11:38
- Level cap in Expansions -
JDQuackers,
2014-07-31, 11:28
- You need to experience the level cap to understand it? :) -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2014-07-31, 10:28
- It's a lot like being in love… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 14:13
- Have a cookie. - Ragashingo, 2014-07-31, 14:19
- September comes, and the lads' fancy tuns to... Destiny - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-07-31, 14:37
- It's a lot like being in love… -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 14:13
- Level cap in Expansions -
kapowaz,
2014-07-31, 10:23
- I'm Speechless... -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 10:38
- I'm Speechless...the GIF is perfect. -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 15:14
- I'm Speechless...the GIF is perfect. - DaDerga, 2014-07-31, 16:54
- I'm Speechless...the GIF is perfect. -
yakaman,
2014-07-31, 15:14
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 10:48
- You can do both! -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-07-31, 11:04
- Yes, but it requires more storytelling. :) -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 11:06
- Yes, but it requires more storytelling. :) -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 11:07
- Yes, but it requires more storytelling. :) -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 11:09
- Nice to know I'm not alone on that! - TTL Demag0gue, 2014-07-31, 11:11
- Je Comprends - DaDerga, 2014-07-31, 11:16
- Yes, but it requires more storytelling. :) -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 11:09
- Yes, but it requires more storytelling. :) -
DaDerga,
2014-07-31, 11:07
- But if you could? -
MrPadraig08,
2014-07-31, 11:09
- Sounds Overpowered. *NM* -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 11:11
- Balanced™ - MrPadraig08, 2014-07-31, 11:12
- Sounds Overpowered. *NM* -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 11:11
- Yes, but it requires more storytelling. :) -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-31, 11:06
- You can do both! -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-07-31, 11:04
- Woah. - UnrealCh13f, 2014-07-31, 11:10
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-07-31, 13:07
- Dat Double Dip. -
INSANEdrive,
2014-07-31, 13:15
- But will it work across skill trees? -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-31, 15:06
- But will it work across skill trees? <--This. -
INSANEdrive,
2014-07-31, 16:05
- But will it work across skill trees? <--This. -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-31, 17:30
- But will it work across skill trees? <--This. - DaDerga, 2014-07-31, 17:41
- But will it work across skill trees? <--This. -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-31, 17:30
- But will it work across skill trees? <--This. -
INSANEdrive,
2014-07-31, 16:05
- But will it work across skill trees? -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-31, 15:06
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action - Kermit, 2014-07-31, 15:48
- Which class is fastest? The most agile? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-07-31, 15:48
- Hunter, by default -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 16:02
- I wonder how that plays out at higher levels. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-08-01, 05:19
- I wonder how that plays out at higher levels. -
petetheduck,
2014-08-01, 06:01
- I wonder how that plays out at higher levels. - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-08-01, 07:05
- I wonder how that plays out at higher levels. -
petetheduck,
2014-08-01, 06:01
- I wonder how that plays out at higher levels. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-08-01, 05:19
- Hunter, by default -
petetheduck,
2014-07-31, 16:02
- So, how does this affect getting from A to B -
kidtsunami,
2014-08-01, 08:39
- So, how does this affect getting from A to B - stabbim, 2014-08-01, 14:59
- IGN: Level 29 Titan In Action - Lord Friendship, 2014-08-01, 08:47
- Just shed a tear... - GrimBrotherIII, 2014-08-03, 20:55
- It's... so... beautiful.... -
MrPadraig08,
2014-07-31, 10:15