Crybabies are as crybabies do. Treadmill never changed. (Destiny)

by Revenant1988 , How do I forum?, Friday, January 02, 2015, 08:14 (3855 days ago) @ iconicbanana

TL;DR

Ideally:

• People with DLC should enjoy it, but realize they are on a hamster wheel.
  
• People without the DLC shouldn't complain about having to "wait their turn" when it comes time to let the other content be king for a week.
  
• Both camps get off the hamster wheel once they have either completed all that they can complete with what they have, or when they aren't having fun anymore

DLC isn't like it used to be, and the way we used to know it wouldn't apply to destiny anyway**.

This is how most MMORPG's work.

Destiny is a junior MMORPG.

It is the nature of the beast, a game that is constantly evolving and always online.

Everyone should have been able to see this coming a mile away, and if they couldn't, ok, but they should know enough by now to make an informed choice about whether or not to support this style of game going forward.

Destiny isn't shy about what is is, at this point.

Games like these are designed to milk cash and time out of the player for as long as possible.

The difference between free to play games like Candy Crush and Destiny are the device it's played on, and that's about it.

You can continue to keep playing Destiny without the DLC, and you'll be able to progress along with the other players, except at a slower pace (due to arbitrary and artificial progression systems).

Bungie has to support the core game and allow people who don't\can't play the DLC to continue to play, but that doesn't mean they can't do everything in their power to tempt or encourage those people to get the DLC.

Strikes are a good example.

Without the DLC, you can still play strikes, but you can't play them on the hardest level, and thus you won't get guaranteed rewards anymore upon completion- the best rewards are tied to the highest levels, and the highest levels are tied to the new content.

So, you can still get engrams though general play and random drops, but you won't get one just for making it to the end anymore.

You can still bring your old guns with you and keep the relevant as well, not just exotics (I know this because I just got a new 'The Crash' from a random drop that has a new cap and the same perks as my old one, which is nice). However, you must accept that the new shiny hotness will not be in your possession because it is tied to that DLC.

A lot of the stuff that Cody says about the game, while repetitive and droning, isn't wrong. But this is new territory for Bungie, and for a lot of non-pc gamers. Bungie has a history of being pretty cool to their player base. I applaud them for trying to make everyone...comfortable, though that is impossible.

**Halo DLC was always additional MP maps- no new campaign stuff. If you didn't get the DCL, you limited yourself to the social playlists, or the most basic team slayer stuff. The "premium" lists needed the new maps. People bitched, then got over it.

**Minerva's Den DLC was a stand alone campaign that had no impact on the other parts of the game. It was isolated because Bioshock is, at it's core, a single player experience.Same with Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil.

Destiny is a massive multi-player game (that ironically isn't massive enough in most ways regarding player count) and as such has to keep people interested by adding new sticks and new carrots.

I totally, 100%, understand and empathize why that might make people who are unfamiliar with the kind of game Destiny is salty about the experience. But them being crybabies about the DLC and Weekly\Xur rotation, in addition to DLC holders lording it over them like they are some kind of peasant isn't productive.

We're all on the same treadmill people, it's just the DLC treadmill is by a window now, while the basic treadmill is in a hallway looking in