
I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... (Destiny)
Joking aside, I think you're right. The lack of direct ways to earn the gear you want is a problem, and it becomes more apparent the longer you play (and the more gear you accumulate).
I would love to hear more from Bungie on this subject. When they've addressed the nature of RNG in the past, I've been a bit confused by their stance and intentions. I think it was during a GDC talk where someone from Bungie said something to the effect of "we didn't expect RNG to be such a big deal... We thought people would just buy the gear they wanted, with the RNG adding a little bonus on top".
But... Wouldn't that only make sense if all the gear was available to buy? When you take the best gear in the game and hide it behind an RNG barrier, OF COURSE it will be a big deal.
Bungie's design intentions behind Exotic Gear also play a big part in this. They've more recently talked about the desire to create exotics that are more "unique" than they are "powerful". Weapons like No Land Beyond or Necrochasm that are only useful within a specific playstyle in specific scenarios. If this were the case with ALL exotics, then the idea of keeping them locked behind RNG is not as bad (still bad, IMO, just not as much). But not all exotics follow this philosophy. Some are clearly, definitively more powerful than any other weapons in the game. How could Bungie expect us to focus on buying vendor gear when weapons like Gjallarhorn and Hawkmoon are floating around out there?
I feel like we're missing part of the equation here.
Complete thread:
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 17:10
- TL;DR cody mad he don't have hawkmoon lolol
- Revenant1988, 2015-04-09, 17:18
- It's a perk, not a necessity. Plus... -
slycrel,
2015-04-09, 17:29
- It's a perk, not a necessity. Plus... - stabbim, 2015-04-09, 20:10
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 22:39
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:11
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 23:13
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
narcogen,
2015-04-09, 23:39
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:51
- Control the zones, Guardians! - Kermit, 2015-04-10, 10:44
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:51
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:11
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- Put it in perspective -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 17:31
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 17:50
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:17
- Put it in perspective -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:26
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:00
- Put it in perspective - stabbim, 2015-04-09, 20:08
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:00
- Put it in perspective - RC, 2015-04-09, 18:32
- Put it in perspective -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:26
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:17
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 17:59
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:09
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 18:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 18:32
- Remember Halo 3 -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:52
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- Ding ding ding! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:22
- Draksis is one thing, but... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:24
- Draksis is one thing, but... - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:30
- Ding ding ding! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:44
- Ding ding ding! - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:48
- Ding ding ding! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:49
- Draksis is one thing, but... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:24
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:22
- Ding ding ding! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Remember Halo 3 - Korny, 2015-04-09, 22:57
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:53
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:08
- Just to clarify - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 13:33
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:41
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:05
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:18
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-10, 01:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-10, 09:43
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-10, 01:15
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 23:43
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:49
- "Only what you take with you." - Mid7night, 2015-04-10, 11:12
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:49
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:18
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:05
- Remember Halo 3 -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:52
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 18:32
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:04
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:07
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-09, 19:48
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 18:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:34
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-09, 18:38
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:47
- Twice as many, or half? *video* -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 21:46
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 22:46
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:52
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 23:09
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 23:33
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:02
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters.
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 23:38
- The crystal was what I was referring to - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 23:54
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 23:09
- Give me a video for one that doesn't float and I'll do it. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 23:35
- Give me a video for one that doesn't float and I'll do it. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:06
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:52
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 22:46
- Twice as many, or half? *video* -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 21:46
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
stabbim,
2015-04-09, 20:31
- You're correct. - Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 20:44
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:47
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:12
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 20:14
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 22:06
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:56
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - General Vagueness, 2015-04-10, 17:32
- That GIF made me laugh way harder than it should have XD
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 09:30
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:56
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 22:06
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:09
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 17:50
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:34
- Eh, we'll get it eventually.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 17:36
- Two Words: Recon Helmet - Durandal, 2015-04-09, 17:38
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 18:53
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- This is my exact problem. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:34
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:50
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:20
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:50
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:07
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:09
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:22
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:27
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:22
- This is my exact problem. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 20:11
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. - unoudid, 2015-04-09, 20:27
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:09
- This is my exact problem. - Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 21:58
- This is my exact problem. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 13:07
- This is my exact problem. - stabbim, 2015-04-10, 13:48
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 14:43
- This is my exact problem. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-04-10, 14:58
- This is my exact problem. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:34
- This is my exact problem. - uberfoop, 2015-04-10, 00:11
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Put it in perspective - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:47
- You know the funny part? -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:17
- You know the funny part? -
stabbim,
2015-04-10, 12:09
- As the Exo Stranger might say: - Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 14:00
- You know the funny part? -
stabbim,
2015-04-10, 12:09
- Eh, we'll get it eventually.
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 17:42
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:52
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... - dogcow, 2015-04-09, 20:38
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:52
- Put it in perspective -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 17:48
- Put it in perspective -
Kalamari,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective - RaichuKFM, 2015-04-12, 09:34
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:54
- Put it in perspective - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:09
- Put it in perspective -
Kalamari,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Right on some counts -
TheeChaos,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Right on some counts - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:56
- I don't necessarily disagree, but... -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-09, 18:24
- No, not that kind of unique -
ZackDark,
2015-04-09, 18:30
- No, not that kind of unique - Speedracer513, 2015-04-09, 18:39
- No, not that kind of unique -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 18:43
- No, not that kind of unique -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:57
- 2 much recoil 4 me.
- CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 19:25
- 2 much recoil 4 me.
- No, not that kind of unique -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:57
- I don't necessarily disagree, but... - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:57
- No, not that kind of unique -
ZackDark,
2015-04-09, 18:30
- Imagine -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:38
- Dirty hippy.
- Claude Errera, 2015-04-09, 18:40
- It's so beautiful! *tear*
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 19:30
- LOL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:56
- That already happened. It's called Halo. Crazy, right?
- CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 19:57
- Imagine -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:01
- Imagine - CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 20:06
- Dirty hippy.
- Put it in perspective - kanbo, 2015-04-09, 18:45
- I'm happy... - Earendil, 2015-04-09, 18:47
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 18:59
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:20
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:37
- Put it in perspective - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:51
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:37
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Put it in perspective -
stabbim,
2015-04-09, 20:57
- Put it in perspective - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 22:08
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:20
- Coming to you Fall 2015 - unoudid, 2015-04-09, 19:07
- Realistic Solutions - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 22:05
- Not even close to reasonable. -
narcogen,
2015-04-09, 23:07
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:08
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:19
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:22
- Not even close to reasonable. - RaichuKFM, 2015-04-10, 16:54
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:22
- Not even close to reasonable. -
narcogen,
2015-04-10, 04:30
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:20
- Not even close to reasonable. - narcogen, 2015-04-11, 05:09
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:20
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:19
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:08
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
Robot Chickens,
2015-04-10, 16:46
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 16:54
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :)
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:50
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 17:52
- Yes, but only on his... work in progress Xbone.
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:53
- Yes, but only on his... work in progress Xbone.
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 17:52
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :)
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:49
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. - Up North 65, 2015-04-10, 18:15
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 16:54
- Put it in perspective - Fuertisimo, 2015-04-10, 22:45
- TL;DR cody mad he don't have hawkmoon lolol