
Not even close to reasonable. (Destiny)
Imagine you went and bought Halo, but there was a multiplayer map that only unlocked as a random reward when playing multiplayer. You'd be annoyed no? I bought the game, why cant I play on the map?
A map is not a gun. Not even close.
Did you read further down when I asked you to imagine having to unlock the Carbine?
No, I stop when I hit a false assumption.
Why is it okay to withhold one aspect of your game (a weapon) with RNG, but not another (map)?
Because they are not equivalent. Guns do not divide the playerbase. I can play with people who do not have the same guns as me. In fact, I'd say it enhances the game. I can think of nothing less interesting than everyone having the exact same gear, except maybe fantasy meritocracy where only the very best players get the very best gear. It looks to me like Destiny might even be doing something Bungie probably can't admit to-- which is a tiny bit of handicapping. Or else it's just that everyone who dominates in a game and has the bile rise in their throats because the worst player gets a sweet drop makes sure to post a screencap, so I see them more often than they actually happen.
However, if maps were locked (and actually some of them are, as DLC) then you can only play games on those maps with others who have those maps. The DLC paywall is probably enough of a division.
Actually, come to think of it, several areas in Dark Below ARE withheld based on game progress, so again, your assumption is just wrong.
Complete thread:
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 17:10
- TL;DR cody mad he don't have hawkmoon lolol
- Revenant1988, 2015-04-09, 17:18
- It's a perk, not a necessity. Plus... -
slycrel,
2015-04-09, 17:29
- It's a perk, not a necessity. Plus... - stabbim, 2015-04-09, 20:10
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 22:39
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:11
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 23:13
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
narcogen,
2015-04-09, 23:39
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:51
- Control the zones, Guardians! - Kermit, 2015-04-10, 10:44
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:51
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:11
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- Put it in perspective -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 17:31
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 17:50
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:17
- Put it in perspective -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:26
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:00
- Put it in perspective - stabbim, 2015-04-09, 20:08
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:00
- Put it in perspective - RC, 2015-04-09, 18:32
- Put it in perspective -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:26
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:17
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 17:59
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:09
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 18:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 18:32
- Remember Halo 3 -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:52
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- Ding ding ding! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:22
- Draksis is one thing, but... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:24
- Draksis is one thing, but... - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:30
- Ding ding ding! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:44
- Ding ding ding! - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:48
- Ding ding ding! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:49
- Draksis is one thing, but... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:24
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:22
- Ding ding ding! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Remember Halo 3 - Korny, 2015-04-09, 22:57
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:53
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:08
- Just to clarify - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 13:33
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:41
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:05
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:18
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-10, 01:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-10, 09:43
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-10, 01:15
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 23:43
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:49
- "Only what you take with you." - Mid7night, 2015-04-10, 11:12
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:49
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:18
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:05
- Remember Halo 3 -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:52
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 18:32
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:04
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:07
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-09, 19:48
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 18:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:34
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-09, 18:38
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:47
- Twice as many, or half? *video* -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 21:46
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 22:46
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:52
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 23:09
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 23:33
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:02
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters.
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 23:38
- The crystal was what I was referring to - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 23:54
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 23:09
- Give me a video for one that doesn't float and I'll do it. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 23:35
- Give me a video for one that doesn't float and I'll do it. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:06
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:52
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 22:46
- Twice as many, or half? *video* -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 21:46
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
stabbim,
2015-04-09, 20:31
- You're correct. - Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 20:44
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:47
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:12
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 20:14
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 22:06
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:56
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - General Vagueness, 2015-04-10, 17:32
- That GIF made me laugh way harder than it should have XD
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 09:30
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:56
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 22:06
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:09
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 17:50
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:34
- Eh, we'll get it eventually.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 17:36
- Two Words: Recon Helmet - Durandal, 2015-04-09, 17:38
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 18:53
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- This is my exact problem. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:34
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:50
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:20
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:50
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:07
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:09
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:22
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:27
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:22
- This is my exact problem. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 20:11
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. - unoudid, 2015-04-09, 20:27
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:09
- This is my exact problem. - Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 21:58
- This is my exact problem. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 13:07
- This is my exact problem. - stabbim, 2015-04-10, 13:48
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 14:43
- This is my exact problem. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-04-10, 14:58
- This is my exact problem. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:34
- This is my exact problem. - uberfoop, 2015-04-10, 00:11
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Put it in perspective - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:47
- You know the funny part? -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:17
- You know the funny part? -
stabbim,
2015-04-10, 12:09
- As the Exo Stranger might say: - Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 14:00
- You know the funny part? -
stabbim,
2015-04-10, 12:09
- Eh, we'll get it eventually.
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 17:42
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:52
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... - dogcow, 2015-04-09, 20:38
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:52
- Put it in perspective -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 17:48
- Put it in perspective -
Kalamari,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective - RaichuKFM, 2015-04-12, 09:34
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:54
- Put it in perspective - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:09
- Put it in perspective -
Kalamari,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Right on some counts -
TheeChaos,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Right on some counts - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:56
- I don't necessarily disagree, but... -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-09, 18:24
- No, not that kind of unique -
ZackDark,
2015-04-09, 18:30
- No, not that kind of unique - Speedracer513, 2015-04-09, 18:39
- No, not that kind of unique -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 18:43
- No, not that kind of unique -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:57
- 2 much recoil 4 me.
- CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 19:25
- 2 much recoil 4 me.
- No, not that kind of unique -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:57
- I don't necessarily disagree, but... - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:57
- No, not that kind of unique -
ZackDark,
2015-04-09, 18:30
- Imagine -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:38
- Dirty hippy.
- Claude Errera, 2015-04-09, 18:40
- It's so beautiful! *tear*
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 19:30
- LOL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:56
- That already happened. It's called Halo. Crazy, right?
- CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 19:57
- Imagine -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:01
- Imagine - CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 20:06
- Dirty hippy.
- Put it in perspective - kanbo, 2015-04-09, 18:45
- I'm happy... - Earendil, 2015-04-09, 18:47
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 18:59
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:20
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:37
- Put it in perspective - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:51
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:37
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Put it in perspective -
stabbim,
2015-04-09, 20:57
- Put it in perspective - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 22:08
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:20
- Coming to you Fall 2015 - unoudid, 2015-04-09, 19:07
- Realistic Solutions - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 22:05
- Not even close to reasonable. -
narcogen,
2015-04-09, 23:07
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:08
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:19
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:22
- Not even close to reasonable. - RaichuKFM, 2015-04-10, 16:54
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:22
- Not even close to reasonable. -
narcogen,
2015-04-10, 04:30
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:20
- Not even close to reasonable. - narcogen, 2015-04-11, 05:09
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:20
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:19
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:08
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
Robot Chickens,
2015-04-10, 16:46
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 16:54
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :)
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:50
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 17:52
- Yes, but only on his... work in progress Xbone.
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:53
- Yes, but only on his... work in progress Xbone.
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 17:52
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :)
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:49
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. - Up North 65, 2015-04-10, 18:15
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 16:54
- Put it in perspective - Fuertisimo, 2015-04-10, 22:45
- TL;DR cody mad he don't have hawkmoon lolol