
Oh, I think you misunderstood. (Destiny)
Some of these are rare, I know, but what I'm trying to say is that you don't NEED the Mythoclast for a solar primary. You can get VoC or Abyss Defiant. I'm just pointing out there are alternatives, and lusting after one gun instead of one of these that can fill the void, in my opinion, is not good.
I think, for some people at least, it's not just about having a solar primary, or a powerful hand cannon, etc. Sometimes there is something about a specific weapon that just jumps out at us and makes us want it. Maybe it's as simple as the way it looks or sounds. That was me with Monte Carlo. I hardly ever use it, but I absolutely adore the aesthetics of the weapon. I was on cloud 9 when I finally got one.
Most dudes take almost as much damage from HoC as Gjallarhorn, so not using it means I take a small damage penalty, but it's not a huge deal for me most of the time,
Gjallarhorn does roughly double the damage of any other rocket launcher against a single target. The only other launcher that comes close is Dragon's Breath, but only against stationary targets (like the shriekers). Against lower level enemies, all rocket launchers feel pretty similar, but against tougher targets Gjallarhorn is lightyears ahead. For example:
Try doing this with Hunger of Crota. It will take about twice as many rockets, if not more. Not to knock HoC or any other rocket launchers... lots of them are great and fun to use. I'm just saying that the difference is more significant than you're making it out to be.
However, at this point, Fatebringer does about as much damage as Word of Crota, TFWPKY, The Chance, and significantly less than Timur's Lash. The first three are broadly comparable, and Timur's Lash can be your custom handcannon with enough motes. Mine has rangefinder, field scout, a reload perk, and a good sight, which is perfect to me.
What Fatebringer has these don't have is arc damage, which, again, can be replaced with other guns, and firefly. Firefly has immense utility killing low level mobs, like thralls. But not more immense than a grenade. There are situations when this is very useful, like normal mode abyss, but I use the icebreaker anyway since it's even better at it.
So, while fatebringer can streamline your strategy, it just means you won't be using your grenades as much.
I think that's really underselling the usefulness of Firefly. The vast majority of PvE encounters are low-level mobs. A high impact weapon like Fatebringer with Firefly can kill multiple enemies with every single pull of the trigger. That's not something that can be replaced by throwing a few more grenades. It redefines your ability to manage crowds.
Now there are plenty of Scout Rifles with Firefly, and they're great. I've just finished upgreading my ANitC with Explosive Rounds and Firefly, and I'm totally in love with it :)
But Fatebringer still has the advantage in close-midrange combat, which is often the range you find yourself in when engaging mobs of low level enemies.
Anyway, it's not that important. It's just people want a gun in a video game.
None of this is actually important, we're all just having fun :)
Complete thread:
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 17:10
- TL;DR cody mad he don't have hawkmoon lolol
- Revenant1988, 2015-04-09, 17:18
- It's a perk, not a necessity. Plus... -
slycrel,
2015-04-09, 17:29
- It's a perk, not a necessity. Plus... - stabbim, 2015-04-09, 20:10
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 22:39
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:11
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 23:13
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
narcogen,
2015-04-09, 23:39
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:51
- Control the zones, Guardians! - Kermit, 2015-04-10, 10:44
- Control the zones, Guardians! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:51
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:11
- You think I don't see that "it's", but I do. I always do... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- Put it in perspective -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 17:31
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 17:50
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:17
- Put it in perspective -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:26
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:00
- Put it in perspective - stabbim, 2015-04-09, 20:08
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:00
- Put it in perspective - RC, 2015-04-09, 18:32
- Put it in perspective -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:26
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:17
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 17:59
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:09
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 18:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 18:32
- Remember Halo 3 -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:52
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- Ding ding ding! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:22
- Draksis is one thing, but... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:24
- Draksis is one thing, but... - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:30
- Ding ding ding! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:44
- Ding ding ding! - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:48
- Ding ding ding! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:49
- Draksis is one thing, but... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:24
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:22
- Ding ding ding! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Remember Halo 3 - Korny, 2015-04-09, 22:57
- Ding ding ding! -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:53
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:08
- Just to clarify - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 13:33
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:00
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:41
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:05
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:18
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-10, 01:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-10, 09:43
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-10, 01:15
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 23:43
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:49
- "Only what you take with you." - Mid7night, 2015-04-10, 11:12
- Hint: he doesn't really dislike the game. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:49
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:18
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 23:05
- Remember Halo 3 -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:52
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-09, 18:32
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:04
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:07
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-09, 19:48
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 18:15
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:34
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-09, 18:38
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:47
- Twice as many, or half? *video* -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 21:46
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 22:46
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:52
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 23:09
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 23:33
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:02
- But it really is, because other rockets have clusters.
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 23:38
- The crystal was what I was referring to - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 23:54
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 23:09
- Give me a video for one that doesn't float and I'll do it. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 23:35
- Give me a video for one that doesn't float and I'll do it. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 01:06
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:52
- The crystal was what I was referring to -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 22:46
- Twice as many, or half? *video* -
Funkmon,
2015-04-09, 21:46
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
stabbim,
2015-04-09, 20:31
- You're correct. - Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 20:44
- Oh, I think you misunderstood. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 19:47
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:08
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:12
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 20:14
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 22:06
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:56
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. - General Vagueness, 2015-04-10, 17:32
- That GIF made me laugh way harder than it should have XD
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-10, 09:30
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 22:56
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-09, 22:06
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:16
- I have no real answers. I'm just some guy. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 18:09
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective -
bluerunner,
2015-04-09, 17:50
- Put it in perspective -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-09, 17:34
- Eh, we'll get it eventually.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 17:36
- Two Words: Recon Helmet - Durandal, 2015-04-09, 17:38
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 18:53
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- This is my exact problem. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:34
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:50
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:20
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:50
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:07
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:09
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:22
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:27
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. -
unoudid,
2015-04-09, 20:22
- This is my exact problem. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 20:11
- This is my exact problem. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:25
- This is my exact problem. - unoudid, 2015-04-09, 20:27
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:09
- This is my exact problem. - Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 21:58
- This is my exact problem. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 13:07
- This is my exact problem. - stabbim, 2015-04-10, 13:48
- This is my exact problem. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 14:43
- This is my exact problem. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-04-10, 14:58
- This is my exact problem. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 19:34
- This is my exact problem. - uberfoop, 2015-04-10, 00:11
- This is my exact problem. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:15
- Put it in perspective - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:47
- You know the funny part? -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:17
- You know the funny part? -
stabbim,
2015-04-10, 12:09
- As the Exo Stranger might say: - Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 14:00
- You know the funny part? -
stabbim,
2015-04-10, 12:09
- Eh, we'll get it eventually.
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 17:42
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:52
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... - dogcow, 2015-04-09, 20:38
- I knew DogCow's 3rd Hawkmoon would break you... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:52
- Put it in perspective -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-09, 17:48
- Put it in perspective -
Kalamari,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Put it in perspective - RaichuKFM, 2015-04-12, 09:34
- Put it in perspective -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 19:54
- Put it in perspective - Ragashingo, 2015-04-09, 20:09
- Put it in perspective -
Kalamari,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Right on some counts -
TheeChaos,
2015-04-09, 17:57
- Right on some counts - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:56
- I don't necessarily disagree, but... -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-09, 18:24
- No, not that kind of unique -
ZackDark,
2015-04-09, 18:30
- No, not that kind of unique - Speedracer513, 2015-04-09, 18:39
- No, not that kind of unique -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 18:43
- No, not that kind of unique -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:57
- 2 much recoil 4 me.
- CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 19:25
- 2 much recoil 4 me.
- No, not that kind of unique -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-09, 18:57
- I don't necessarily disagree, but... - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 19:57
- No, not that kind of unique -
ZackDark,
2015-04-09, 18:30
- Imagine -
nico,
2015-04-09, 18:38
- Dirty hippy.
- Claude Errera, 2015-04-09, 18:40
- It's so beautiful! *tear*
- Funkmon, 2015-04-09, 19:30
- LOL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-09, 19:56
- That already happened. It's called Halo. Crazy, right?
- CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 19:57
- Imagine -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 20:01
- Imagine - CyberKN, 2015-04-09, 20:06
- Dirty hippy.
- Put it in perspective - kanbo, 2015-04-09, 18:45
- I'm happy... - Earendil, 2015-04-09, 18:47
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 18:59
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:20
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:37
- Put it in perspective - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 19:51
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:37
- Put it in perspective -
Kermit,
2015-04-09, 19:26
- Put it in perspective -
stabbim,
2015-04-09, 20:57
- Put it in perspective - Kermit, 2015-04-09, 22:08
- Put it in perspective -
CyberKN,
2015-04-09, 19:20
- Coming to you Fall 2015 - unoudid, 2015-04-09, 19:07
- Realistic Solutions - Cody Miller, 2015-04-09, 22:05
- Not even close to reasonable. -
narcogen,
2015-04-09, 23:07
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:08
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:19
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:22
- Not even close to reasonable. - RaichuKFM, 2015-04-10, 16:54
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:22
- Not even close to reasonable. -
narcogen,
2015-04-10, 04:30
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:20
- Not even close to reasonable. - narcogen, 2015-04-11, 05:09
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-10, 05:20
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Korny,
2015-04-09, 23:19
- Not even close to reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-09, 23:08
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
Robot Chickens,
2015-04-10, 16:46
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 16:54
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :)
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:50
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 17:52
- Yes, but only on his... work in progress Xbone.
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:53
- Yes, but only on his... work in progress Xbone.
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 17:52
- Ha! Poor Beorn! :)
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-10, 17:49
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. - Up North 65, 2015-04-10, 18:15
- You do not have, because your heart still has desire in it.. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-10, 16:54
- Put it in perspective - Fuertisimo, 2015-04-10, 22:45
- TL;DR cody mad he don't have hawkmoon lolol