It would be abused. (Destiny)

by DreadPirateWes, Wednesday, May 06, 2015, 18:19 (3487 days ago) @ iconicbanana

I rarely play a whole raid in one sitting. Instead, I hop on LFG and find someone who wants to kill Atheon. That only takes 5-15 mins. It looks like completing the prison will take at least 30 minutes.

Especially in matchmaking. "Alright, Stage 5, oops RNG'd a modifier I don't like, guess I'll back out." Strike playlist level back-outs but on a larger scale; you can cheese a strike, but this with 1-2 people might be really frustrating.

Design it differently to make it harder to abuse. Cody could tell us how.

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Prison of Elders Live Stream Discussion - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 15:50
- Mature audiences warning this time. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 15:53
  - Hide your kids. - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 15:54
  - Level 32 Guardians only :P - CyberKN, 2015-05-06, 15:55
  - Stick it in Guardians - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 15:57
  - Guess that means we aren't allowed - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-05-06, 15:58
- Don't read the chat. - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 15:55
  - Why are they all saying "hype"? - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:01
    - Don't even try man. You'll just get hurt. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:01
    - De Train! De Train! - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 16:02
- The comments stream is kinda spectacular right now :D - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-06, 16:03
- How about that music - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:04
  - Dem Oboes. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:04
- DeeJ went casual this time. - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:05
- DEEJ!!!!!! - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 16:06
  - I'll buy it. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:07
  - Thought this was re how bad he is at Destiny - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 17:34
- "Level 28 is matchmade" - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:08
  - Up to level 35 challenge modes - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:08
  - "Level 28 is matchmade" - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:08
  - See, Cody? Just wait. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:08
- Level 28 can be run indefinitely with rewards - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:09
  - I like this. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:10
- Sounds level suck. I'm gonna blow my ear drums out afterwrds - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 16:09
  - Now fixed and makes my ears hurt til turned down. - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 16:11
    - I have mine cranked way down - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:17
      - Broman = Annoying - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 16:23
        
        I hate him more than anything I've ever hated. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:26
        
        Broman = Annoying - CaneCutter, 2015-05-06, 16:30
        
        I'm out. someone else damage their ears for me. - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 16:31
        
        someone else damage their brain for me. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:31
        
        He is so LOOOOOUUUUUD. - BeardFade, 2015-05-06, 16:32
        
        Broman = Annoying - ProbablyLast, 2015-05-06, 16:33
        
        He's not so bad - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 16:52
        
        He's loud and excited, but not as annoying as the first guy. - dogcow, 2015-05-06, 17:29
        
        He's loud and excited, but not as annoying as the first guy. - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 17:42
        
        He's loud and excited, but not as annoying as the first guy. - ProbablyLast, 2015-05-06, 17:44
        
        He just said "I can't even" non ironically. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:30
        
        Why Professor Broman? - narcogen, 2015-05-07, 07:00
        
        hahahaha - unoudid, 2015-05-07, 12:24
- Why are they different names? - Mid7night, 2015-05-06, 16:09
- New modifiers, first: Trickle - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:11
  - Small Arms - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:24
    - After completing 3 hive waves, new arena of cabal waves. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:25
      - The seem to be having a much harder time with this wave. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:28
  - Missed the name of the third one - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:44
    - Exposure. I think... - CaneCutter, 2015-05-06, 16:47
      - Red Death is giving DeeJ a small amount of shields back - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:55
        
        Red Death is giving DeeJ a small amount of shields back - stabbim, 2015-05-06, 18:00
        
        Red Death is giving DeeJ a small amount of shields back - Vortech, 2015-05-06, 18:17
- Fight waves of enemies at a time. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:13
  - Wipe has reset all progress through initial waves. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:18
- I am loving this first arena. Hive everywhere. Neat space. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:15
  - I want Sammon's pistol. It is the tits. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:15
    - Confirmed it's a special! - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:16
      - Fast firing pistol, perk against fallen - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 17:02
    - Screenshot of perks - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:59
      - Another screenshot. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 19:35
        
        So do those perks come unlocked out of the box? - CyberKN, 2015-05-06, 19:36
        
        If only Broman asked the important questions :( - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 19:37
        
        If only Broman asked the important questions :( - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 19:41
        
        If only Broman asked the important questions :( - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 19:43
- Hand cannon secondary :-) - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 16:16
- Objectives in addition to killing - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:26
  - Something is making Goose noises. It's great. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:28
    - Heavy ammo spawns mid round. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:36
  - VIP Objective as well - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:46
- Death restarts at beginning of round - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:27
- Something Something Inside Voices Something. ಠ_ಠ - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 16:28
- Scorch Cannon! - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:30
  - With a charge shot of some kind - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:32
  - Functions like relic/sword. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:32
- Scorch Cannon..giant flamethrower gun..broman is loud again - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:32
  - THIS GUN THAT IS WORSE THAN MY GUN IS AWESOME! - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:37
    - Actively rooting for the Cabal. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:39
      - Actively rooting for the Cabal. - ProbablyLast, 2015-05-06, 16:50
      - ROFL. Good choice. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:51
- Warden gives random "gifts" during round - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:36
- Does he know the mythoclast does't count as a primary? - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 16:38
  - I don't think so. He doesn't seem to be that good. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:39
    - Confirmed. He has acknowledged he is not good. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:44
  - In fairness he did ask later - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 16:57
- Twitch streamer is talking about a "Treasure Room" - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:39
  - Twitch streamer is talking about a "Treasure Room" - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 16:48
    - The IGN team got Treasure Keys at the end - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 19:05
- Objective points are randomized. - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:40
- Titan jump is still terrible. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:42
- Round 3, boss fight round - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:44
  - More Cabal this time. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:45
- New Online Petition - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 16:48
  - New Online Petition - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 16:49
    - Sadly signing - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:53
    - Heh. - Kermit, 2015-05-06, 18:02
  - Eh, he's doing what he thinks people want. - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:51
    - Deaf people? - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:53
      - Probably children mostly :) - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:54
  - "Oh, butts!" - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:51
    - Lol, he said that just as I read it. - dogcow, 2015-05-06, 16:54
  - That's harsh... - TDSpiral, 2015-05-06, 17:00
    - That's harsh... - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 17:04
      - In a minor defense... - Vortech, 2015-05-06, 18:27
    - That's harsh... - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 17:11
      - +1 - stabbim, 2015-05-06, 18:09
      - I'm available ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-06, 18:46
  - #MuteBroman is a thing on twitter - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 17:17
    - Broman is the last boss, he just shouts at you till you quit - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 17:23
      - Broman = the Cryptarch (but less magical)? - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 17:24
        
        He has become legend, certainly. I'm never forgetting this. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:25
        
        Is this now how we "Become Legend"? - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 17:26
  - This sums up the stream - unoudid, 2015-05-06, 18:44
    - Looks like DeeJ's headphones aren't over his ears. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 18:45
  - They obviously chose the lesser Professor B. - LostSpartan, 2015-05-06, 21:03
  - And to think people were whining about Gothalion... - Korny, 2015-05-06, 23:50
    - And to think people were whining about Gothalion... - CyberKN, 2015-05-07, 00:03
      - And to think people were whining about Gothalion... - General Vagueness, 2015-05-07, 01:28
        
        And to think people were whining about Gothalion... - DiscipleN2k, 2015-05-07, 13:05
        
        And to think people were whining about Gothalion... - CyberKN, 2015-05-07, 14:47
      - And to think people were whining about Gothalion... - ProbablyLast, 2015-05-07, 10:49
- No checkpoints saved when you quit - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 16:48
  - No rewards it looks like till the bitter end - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:49
- If I just beat Cabal, why would I want to do it again? - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 16:50
  - Agree, that makes no sense.... - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 16:51
  - I think all encounters are randomized to some extent. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:51
    - Ugh. How do you beat player fatigue? You mix it up. - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 16:59
      - D'know. That played differently than the mine section. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:01
        
        Hive again. But different kinds of Hive. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:02
        
        Looks like this particular dungeon is hive/cabal themed. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:04
- Bubbles + St. 14 FTW. I think those 2 will be great in this - dogcow, 2015-05-06, 16:51
  - I think orb health helmet maybe for exposure. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 16:55
- They are having . . . uh . . . a really hard time of it. - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:53
- Red Deaths gives you little bit of shield back - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-06, 16:54
  - Being revived gives you full shields again as well. - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:57
    - When low die to regen shields. - dogcow, 2015-05-06, 17:03
      - "Don't kill the last enemy, I'm going to kill myself first" - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 20:24
- The challenge versions of PoE seem almost like Nightfalls - Dan de Board, 2015-05-06, 16:55
  - I think more like weeklies. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:56
- I love that objectives make them move around - Earendil, 2015-05-06, 16:56
  - Yeah. You won't be cheesing this. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 16:57
    - Continuious movement, no standing still and sniping on this - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 17:00
    - I bet I could still cheese it. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:53
      - The internet...uh...finds a way. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:54
- Prison of Elders Live Stream Discussion - General Vagueness, 2015-05-06, 16:59
  - Prison of Elders Live Stream Discussion - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 17:02
- When no shield recharge is on... - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 16:59
- 5 rounds - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 17:01
  - Only 4 doors - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 17:02
    - Only 4 doors - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 17:45
      - Only 4 doors - Speedracer513, 2015-05-06, 19:27
- He inspected the handcannon, but I missed the stats. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:02
  - Said it had a perk for fallen. It's also not a revolver. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:03
  - He inspected the handcannon, but I missed the stats. - ProbablyLast, 2015-05-06, 17:11
  - It's not a "hand cannon," exactly - stabbim, 2015-05-06, 18:58
- There is a Vex space. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:03
- We won't see Fallen and Vex today - Earendil, 2015-05-06, 17:04
  - Why are they carrying Heavy Machine guns? - Earendil, 2015-05-06, 17:06
    - Did they pick bad players to make it look hard? - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 17:45
  - We won't see Fallen and Vex today - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 17:09
    - It's a video game. It's dumb. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:10
      - Video games shouldn't be dumb. - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 17:12
        
        Yes they should. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:55
        
        Yes they should. - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 18:07
        
        It absolutely is stupid. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 18:20
        
        It absolutely is stupid. - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 18:35
        
        It absolutely is stupid. - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 20:16
        
        You keep bringing me back, thatalsodude. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 20:18
        
        Thanks! - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 22:48
        
        It absolutely is stupid. - General Vagueness, 2015-05-06, 20:55
        
        See previous post heavily implying that. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 22:18
    - It would be much more fun if they were unarmed(!) - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 17:14
    - We won't see Fallen and Vex today - Vortech, 2015-05-06, 18:32
      - There's some fallen clips in Insane's linkdump. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 18:37
    - We won't see Fallen and Vex today - General Battuta, 2015-05-06, 21:12
      - Can't wait to read it. :) - Ragashingo, 2015-05-06, 22:30
- Hunters glow with beautiful energy - General Vagueness, 2015-05-06, 17:08
- Click here to see when they will beat this. - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 17:10
  - Why didn't they stream the level 32 version? - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 17:14
- Why did they do Lvl34? - someotherguy, 2015-05-06, 17:17
  - Agree, really looking forward to trying this out myself - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 17:18
  - Honestly? Probably to prove it's challenging. - Xenos, 2015-05-06, 17:20
    - Or to show off rewards and loot. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:24
  - Why did they do Lvl34? - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 17:47
- Tested: I can bake AO faster then this. /snap - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 17:24
- They should have done this as 2 groups... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-06, 17:32
  - +1 - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 17:47
- Can't tell if .... - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-06, 17:33
  - Don't care, Monsters won! - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:34
- Link Dump - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 17:44
  - IGN link has another gameplay video - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 18:18
  - Bungie Site Updated too. - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 18:19
  - One more link - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 18:53
    - THE FLOOR IS LAVA! - Vortech, 2015-05-06, 19:10
- First disappointing reveal - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 17:45
  - I agree, except for the second part. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 17:51
    - I agree, except for the second part. - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 18:01
      - I'm fine with that. That suck only happens once. - Funkmon, 2015-05-06, 18:07
      - I agree, except for the second part. - General Vagueness, 2015-05-06, 19:55
        
        I agree, except for the second part. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-06, 20:04
        
        This might come down to what people actually play. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 20:08
        
        This might come down to what people actually play. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-06, 20:26
        
        Raid participation may go up after PoE, too. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 20:30
        
        This might come down to what people actually play. - General Vagueness, 2015-05-06, 20:47
        
        Gotta spread that net wide, GV! - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 20:50
        
        Gotta spread that net wide, GV! - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 22:46
        
        Gotta spread that net wide, GV! - Ragashingo, 2015-05-06, 22:52
        
        Because Datto knows what it's like only playing strikes? - iconicbanana, 2015-05-07, 01:18
        
        Because Datto knows what it's like only playing strikes? - Cody Miller, 2015-05-07, 06:58
        
        I agree, except for the second part. - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 22:38
        
        I agree, except for the second part. - Kahzgul, 2015-05-07, 13:34
        
        I agree, except for the second part. - Cody Miller, 2015-05-06, 22:37
        
        I agree, except for the second part. - General Vagueness, 2015-05-07, 01:21
    - Prison of Elders is a Randomly-Generated Raid - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 18:07
      - Prison of Elders is a Randomly-Generated Raid - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-06, 18:55
  - I dunno, looks like a good casual experience. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 17:59
- No checkpoints makes me sad - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 18:10
  - It would be abused. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 18:13
    - It would be abused. - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 18:19
      - That's what lower difficulties are for? - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 18:31
        
        That's what lower difficulties are for? - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 19:07
        
        Will it? - CyberKN, 2015-05-06, 19:19
        
        Will it? - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 19:20
        
        Will it? - CyberKN, 2015-05-06, 19:26
        
        2 types of bomb objectives, Disable or Destroy. - dogcow, 2015-05-06, 19:51
        
        Will it? - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-06, 20:10
        
        Nope. Skip to 3:45 mark: - CyberKN, 2015-05-06, 20:23
        
        Huh? - iconicbanana, 2015-05-06, 20:27
        
        I was disagreeing. - CyberKN, 2015-05-06, 20:38
        
        "Destroy Splinter Mines" has no cap-point below it. - dogcow, 2015-05-06, 20:48
- If only they had 6 guys, then they might have beaten it. - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 18:13
- I had a meeting for the last 10 minutes or so of the stream - Monochron, 2015-05-06, 18:22
  - Rekt - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-06, 18:34

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