Have you played Mass Effect 3? (Destiny)
I agree on almost all points.
The big difference for me is that ME3 had far more distinction in their enemy types. The way in which you fought a grunt unit was totally different from how you fought a banshee was totally different from how you fought those ninja dudes (sorry, it's been a while since I played and I forget all the unit names). In destiny, the strategy for every single enemy is to shoot it in the face (or bird poop pod). There's no flanking (or point to flanking, since it often means you can no longer hit the critical spot), and there's no enemy where you're safer running away than you are just killing it. If you do run in Destiny, it's a last ditch effort that usually screws over your teammates who will not be able to rescue you as a result. Also, because of how enemies in Destiny spawn and move, you're often too busy covering your own ass to help a friend. In PoE, the enemies have so many hitpoints that even your supers are unlikely to clear an area (my golden gun is now purely used to strip flame shields, or if I think it will take too long to reload hawkmoon and I have 1 almost dead guy I have to kill *right now*).
Where ME3 needed a team to take strategic positions in order to spread the enemy thinner, and you were in trouble if you ever got pinned down, Destiny needs a team to group together in order to provide constant pushback against the horde, which really just means you're pinned down wherever you go and that being pinned down is really the optimal strategy. It's less compelling gameplay to me.
Furthermore, Not only did ME3's waves ramp up more slowly in difficulty, as you point out, but the waves all spawn in predictable numbers so you have a real sense of progress as you defeat enemies. In PoE, specifically, I often feel like the waves end after X amount of time rather than after defeating Y enemies, though I'm honestly not sure how they do it. It just seems like there are always 30 enemies out in the map, regardless of how many I kill or don't kill, until suddenly there are zero enemies left.
PoE = defend the corner, so no matter how awesome the maps are, 95% of those maps are not used.
Complete thread:
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 15:00
- +1 -
CyberKN,
2015-06-10, 15:03
- +1 -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:14
- If the rumours are true... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 18:01
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 19:03
- If the rumours are true... -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-10, 19:11
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 19:12
- If the rumours are true... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 19:25
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 19:34
- If the rumours are true... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 19:44
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 20:08
- Ahhh, another detail I cut from my original post... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 20:15
- Ahhh, another detail I cut from my original post... -
Xenos,
2015-06-10, 20:23
- Ahhh, another detail I cut from my original post... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-11, 13:01
- Ahhh, another detail I cut from my original post... -
Xenos,
2015-06-10, 20:23
- If the rumours are true... - Cody Miller, 2015-06-11, 00:07
- Ahhh, another detail I cut from my original post... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 20:15
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 20:08
- If the rumours are true... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 19:44
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 19:34
- If the rumours are true... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 19:25
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 19:12
- If the rumours are true... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-10, 19:22
- If the rumours are true... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-11, 00:15
- If the rumours are true... - Claude Errera, 2015-06-11, 02:09
- Um... - nico, 2015-06-11, 20:11
- I've already got more than I paid for - kidtsunami, 2015-06-11, 11:02
- If the rumours are true... -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-10, 19:11
- If the rumours are true... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-10, 19:03
- +1 - CyberKN, 2015-06-10, 20:27
- If the rumours are true... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 18:01
- +1 -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:14
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-10, 15:18
- An updated reward pool would be nice. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-10, 15:34
- My thoughts exactly. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-10, 15:55
- An updated reward pool would be nice. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-10, 15:34
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
Xenos,
2015-06-10, 15:41
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 16:03
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
Xenos,
2015-06-10, 17:25
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-10, 17:52
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
Xenos,
2015-06-10, 17:25
- Defeated Skolas last night (House of Wolves thoughts) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 16:03
- Regarding gear... -
slycrel,
2015-06-10, 15:48
- Post of the day. - Claude Errera, 2015-06-10, 15:53
- Regarding gear... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 15:58
- HOARD ALL THE THINGS - someotherguy, 2015-06-10, 16:00
- uh, maybe stop being so awesome at everything you touch? ;) -
slycrel,
2015-06-10, 16:18
- It is my gift... it is my curse ;p -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 18:59
- I'll take that as a "thank you". :D - slycrel, 2015-06-11, 01:55
- It is my gift... it is my curse ;p -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 18:59
- We are the top % -
Durandal,
2015-06-10, 16:12
- You're a crazy person. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-10, 16:25
- True - Durandal, 2015-06-10, 16:34
- We are the top % -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 17:59
- We are the top % -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 18:26
- We are the top % - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-10, 18:55
- We are the top % -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 18:26
- You're a crazy person. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-10, 16:25
- Regarding gear... -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 16:21
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:32
- Regarding gear... -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 16:57
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 17:01
- Regarding gear... -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 17:12
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 17:17
- Regarding gear... - red robber, 2015-06-10, 17:19
- Regarding gear... - General Vagueness, 2015-06-10, 20:40
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 17:17
- Regarding gear... -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 17:12
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 17:01
- Regarding gear... -
red robber,
2015-06-10, 16:57
- Regarding gear... -
dogcow,
2015-06-10, 16:44
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 17:04
- +1 - slycrel, 2015-06-10, 17:44
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 17:04
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:32
- Regarding gear... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:22
- And fortunately, all those old weapons are still obtainable! -
slycrel,
2015-06-10, 16:23
- How so? -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:24
- Reports say purples from normal patrol chests+tiger strikes. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-10, 16:28
- Reports say purples from normal patrol chests+tiger strikes. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:35
- I don't believe so. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-10, 16:38
- I don't believe so. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:40
- Try the level 24 strike playlist anyway. Can't hurt. - Funkmon, 2015-06-10, 17:48
- I don't believe so. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:40
- I don't believe so. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-10, 16:38
- Reports say purples from normal patrol chests+tiger strikes. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:35
- Most of the worthwhile ones are raid drops. - slycrel, 2015-06-10, 17:47
- Reports say purples from normal patrol chests+tiger strikes. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-10, 16:28
- How so? -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:24
- And fortunately, all those old weapons are still obtainable! -
slycrel,
2015-06-10, 16:23
- I Disagree & Agree - dogcow, 2015-06-10, 15:49
- Regarding PoE... -
slycrel,
2015-06-10, 16:17
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 17:51
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? - slycrel, 2015-06-10, 18:25
- This is how PoE should have been done. Its close...but not. - INSANEdrive, 2015-06-10, 18:28
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-10, 20:06
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-10, 21:03
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? - Ragashingo, 2015-06-10, 21:46
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-10, 21:03
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? - stabbim, 2015-06-10, 22:43
- Have you played Mass Effect 3? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 17:51
- You will never have all the things. Ever. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-10, 16:33
- You will never have all the things. Ever. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 17:56
- You will never have all the things. Ever. - Cody Miller, 2015-06-11, 01:39
- You will never have all the things. Ever. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 17:56
- The real problem is mastery -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 16:56
- Bug report. - INSANEdrive, 2015-06-10, 17:33
- IMO we are too early for "mastery" with PoE. - slycrel, 2015-06-10, 17:42
- I don't think so. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-10, 17:54
- I don't think so. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 18:47
- I don't think so. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-10, 18:58
- I don't think so. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-10, 18:47
- This quoted text. So much this quoted text. -
dogcow,
2015-06-10, 18:34
- Yep. Cody nailed that one. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-10, 18:54
- This quoted text. So much this quoted text. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-10, 19:05
- This quoted text. So much this quoted text. -
Kermit,
2015-06-10, 19:18
- Atheon random teleport fix, what's the real reason? -
dogcow,
2015-06-10, 19:36
- Atheon random teleport fix, what's the real reason? - Kermit, 2015-06-10, 21:24
- Atheon random teleport fix, what's the real reason? -
dogcow,
2015-06-10, 19:36
- This quoted text. So much this quoted text. -
Kermit,
2015-06-10, 19:18
- The real problem is fantasy. -
narcogen,
2015-06-10, 23:00
- Very interesting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 23:33
- Very interesting - Cody Miller, 2015-06-11, 00:04
- Variety -
narcogen,
2015-06-11, 03:32
- Variety - Cody Miller, 2015-06-11, 14:39
- Very interesting -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-11, 13:58
- Apropos of (almost) nothing. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-11, 14:03
- Apropos of (almost) nothing. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-11, 14:47
- It really is apropos of nothing, I just wanted to do it. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-11, 14:51
- Apropos of (almost) nothing. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-11, 14:47
- Apropos of (almost) nothing. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-11, 14:03
- The real problem is fantasy. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-11, 00:02
- The real problem is fantasy. - narcogen, 2015-06-11, 03:34
- The real problem is perfection. -
narcogen,
2015-06-11, 03:37
- The real problem is perfection. - Cody Miller, 2015-06-11, 14:42
- Very interesting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 23:33
- Some thoughts on your thoughts. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-10, 21:13
- Some thoughts on your thoughts. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 21:48
- Some thoughts on your thoughts. - Kermit, 2015-06-11, 15:16
- Some thoughts on your thoughts. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-10, 21:48
- +1 -
CyberKN,
2015-06-10, 15:03