I have... kind of (Destiny)
I was in the process of quantifying everything, starting from the White Weapons up, when I realised that patches and updates were going to make the workload constant and never-ending, so I kind of stopped after I figured out the base systems and rules that everything else follows.
Which means 3 things:
- If you ever want to know about pre-TDB White, Green or Blue weapons, I'm your man.
- I know some really weird things. For example, did you know that Auto Rifles and Scout Rifles all have the same delay between firing their final round and beginning the reload animation (0.4 seconds), but Sniper Rifles have a differing delay based on their rate of fire (higher RoF = shorter delay)? LMGs also have differing delays, but they are seemingly arbitrary (or possibly based on the physical model of the weapon. As in, what the gun looks like. Maybe?), while all Pulse Rifles have a delay of 0.53 seconds except the Psi Umbra II-A, which is 1 frame longer... because reasons?
Also weird - did you know that the BTRD-345 is not just a high-stability Legendary LMG, but is also a pre-HoW Green LMG (I think it was the one available from the Vanguard Armoury pre-order bonus)? It wasn't very good.
- On the bright side, it means I also know how some of the less transparent mechanics work - did you know that, in general, 2 points of reload speed equates to 1 frame of reload animation? So a gun with 50 reload speed only reloads 0.166666 recurring seconds (5 frames at 30 fps) faster than a gun with 40 reload speed? Handcannons don't follow this rule though, because Handcannons are cool and don't play by the rules.
More useful for general play - it is always, always more efficient to reload your shotgun back to maximum ammo before firing (assuming you sprint-cancel the annoying animation) than it is to load a single shell, fire, reload a single shell, fire, etc. Though of course, efficiency is fine and dandy but if it means the difference bwteen life and death, screw efficientcy and cancel the reload animation to shoot that nasty minotaur in the head-parts.
Sadly it also means that I'd need to start over if you wanted that level of specificity for new guns. That wouldn't be that hard, as there seem to be far fewer Legendaries than there are Rares, but honestly I feel like it would be overkill. It does lead me to one decision that would have to be made though - Because of the differing stats of each Legendary avilable, it would be far easier to talk about each archetype, but far more comprehensive to talk about each weapon on an individual basis.
For example, for a Swarm Archetype LMG I would usually say to stack Stability with Feeding Frenzy and increased magazine size. But the BTRD-345 already has great stability, so that would be a waste.
Similarly, the Dead Orbit Scout Rifle is inferior to the Crucible playlist's Shadow Scout Rifle. They benefit from a similar roll, but you could potentially do something slightly different with the Shadow because it has inherently superior stats.
Thoughts?
Complete thread:
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-13, 17:17
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
dogcow,
2015-07-13, 17:31
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
red robber,
2015-07-13, 17:37
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-13, 17:55
- Think I'll dismantle my Queen's Wrath guns - someotherguy, 2015-07-13, 19:26
- This. - ProbablyLast, 2015-07-13, 18:42
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-13, 17:55
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
red robber,
2015-07-13, 17:37
- I refuse! -
Funkmon,
2015-07-13, 17:52
- What are you holding in the postmaster? -
CyberKN,
2015-07-13, 17:56
- Zero things at postmaster. :(
- Funkmon, 2015-07-13, 18:06
- In that case, start running raids with a full inventory.
- CyberKN, 2015-07-13, 18:13
- In that case, start running raids with a full inventory.
- Zero things at postmaster. :(
- What are you holding in the postmaster? -
CyberKN,
2015-07-13, 17:56
- Know What I Think? -
Morpheus,
2015-07-14, 02:12
- Let's do it. DBO weapon cynics database.
- Funkmon, 2015-07-14, 19:09
- House of Armory Judgement
- ZackDark, 2015-07-14, 19:24
- Oh that's good. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-14, 19:52
- You'd do great, imho
- ZackDark, 2015-07-14, 20:01
- "Shard it, yeeeeeessssss?"
- ZackDark, 2015-07-14, 20:02
- You'd do great, imho
- Oh that's good. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-14, 19:52
- House of Armory Judgement
- I LOVE this idea!
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-07-14, 20:15
- Know What I Think? -
Kermit,
2015-07-14, 20:26
- Know What I Think? -
Speedracer513,
2015-07-14, 20:55
- I'm cool with this - someotherguy, 2015-07-14, 21:33
- Know What I Think? -
Speedracer513,
2015-07-14, 20:55
- Yes please! -
dogcow,
2015-07-14, 20:31
- Yes please! -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-14, 22:49
- I knew Cody would do great as well
- ZackDark, 2015-07-14, 22:55
- I knew Cody would do great as well
- Yes please! -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-14, 22:49
- In That Case... -
Morpheus,
2015-07-14, 21:43
- In That Case... -
someotherguy,
2015-07-14, 21:49
- Oh, Definitely. -
Morpheus,
2015-07-15, 01:48
- Oh, Definitely. -
Claude Errera,
2015-07-15, 04:10
- Oh, Definitely. - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 07:16
- This is the problem, really. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 08:19
- This is the problem, really. -
ProbablyLast,
2015-07-15, 08:51
- This is the problem, really. - Funkmon, 2015-07-15, 09:28
- I'm inclined to disagree -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 10:05
- I don't think many people would have those questions here. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 10:35
- I don't think many people would have those questions here. -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 11:33
- I don't think many people would have those questions here. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 11:53
- I'd like to -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 12:38
- Probably someone with a C in his name would do it.
- Funkmon, 2015-07-15, 12:48
- Claude? ZackDark? Funcmon? :p -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 13:11
- Format for a weapon perk guide -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 14:02
- Format for a weapon perk guide -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 14:15
- Format for a weapon perk guide -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 14:28
- Separate post for each perk would be cool, if hard work
- ZackDark, 2015-07-15, 15:06
- Perhaps we need to consult the grizzled ancients of DBO -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 15:22
- Perhaps we need to consult the grizzled ancients of DBO - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 15:25
- Perhaps we need to consult the grizzled ancients of DBO - Kermit, 2015-07-15, 18:06
- Perhaps we need to consult the grizzled ancients of DBO -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 15:22
- Separate post for each perk would be cool, if hard work
- Format for a weapon perk guide -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 14:28
- Format for a weapon perk guide -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 14:15
- Claude? ZackDark? Funcmon? :p -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-15, 14:40
- No arguments from me - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 14:51
- What, Do You Play Clash On The Actual Letters? - Morpheus, 2015-07-15, 16:29
- Format for a weapon perk guide -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 14:02
- Claude? ZackDark? Funcmon? :p -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 13:11
- Probably someone with a C in his name would do it.
- I'd like to -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 12:38
- I don't think many people would have those questions here. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 11:53
- You're probably right. -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 11:55
- YOUTUBE VIDEOS WORSE THAN WEBPAGES?!!!!! -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 12:01
- YOUTUBE VIDEOS WORSE THAN WEBPAGES?!!!!! - Morpheus, 2015-07-15, 12:09
- I can't even view youtube videos - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 12:13
- You're probably right. -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 12:13
- Field Scout is actually great for sustained DpS - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 12:18
- LOL -
red robber,
2015-07-15, 12:16
- LOL -
bluerunner,
2015-07-15, 12:31
- Heh
- Ragashingo, 2015-07-15, 12:33
- #EatThatSock
- red robber, 2015-07-15, 12:37
- #EatThatSock
- ProbablyLast, 2015-07-15, 12:39
- #FilmThatSock
- ZackDark, 2015-07-15, 14:00
- #TwoMilesAway -
ProbablyLast,
2015-07-15, 14:06
- #I'dWalkThatForTheSockVideo
- ZackDark, 2015-07-15, 15:05
- #IWouldWalk500Miles
- ProbablyLast, 2015-07-15, 16:00
- #JustDoIt
- ZackDark, 2015-07-15, 16:38
- #JustDoIt
- #IWouldWalk500Miles
- #MeetHalfway -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 15:23
- Halfway is a lake.
- Funkmon, 2015-07-15, 15:43
- #EatThatSockInALake
- someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 15:52
- So it'd be idyllic, even
- ZackDark, 2015-07-15, 15:54
- #EatThatSockInALake
- Halfway is a lake.
- #I'dWalkThatForTheSockVideo
- #TwoMilesAway -
ProbablyLast,
2015-07-15, 14:06
- #FilmThatSock
- #EatThatSock
- #EatThatSock
- Heh
- LOL -
bluerunner,
2015-07-15, 12:31
- And then they never listen when I answer them. - Vortech, 2015-07-15, 19:54
- YOUTUBE VIDEOS WORSE THAN WEBPAGES?!!!!! -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 12:01
- I don't think many people would have those questions here. -
someotherguy,
2015-07-15, 11:33
- I don't think many people would have those questions here. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 10:35
- This is the problem, really. -
ProbablyLast,
2015-07-15, 08:51
- Oh, Definitely. -
Claude Errera,
2015-07-15, 04:10
- Oh, Definitely. -
Morpheus,
2015-07-15, 01:48
- In That Case... -
someotherguy,
2015-07-14, 21:49
- Throw everything away. -
ProbablyLast,
2015-07-14, 23:20
- Well, that escalated quickly
- ZackDark, 2015-07-14, 23:58
- Well, that escalated quickly - ProbablyLast, 2015-07-15, 04:14
- You'll Be Crucible Expert #1.
- Morpheus, 2015-07-15, 01:33
- Throw everything away. -
Vortech,
2015-07-15, 19:58
- Throw everything away. - CyberKN, 2015-07-15, 20:01
- Well, that escalated quickly
- Here's My Idea For This. -
Morpheus,
2015-07-15, 02:18
- Here's My Idea For This. -
ZackDark,
2015-07-15, 02:31
- Here's My Idea For This. - Morpheus, 2015-07-15, 02:35
- Here's My Idea For This. - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 11:38
- Automate it! - dogcow, 2015-07-15, 20:15
- Here's My Idea For This. -
ZackDark,
2015-07-15, 02:31
- Let's do it. DBO weapon cynics database.
- My essentials -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-15, 15:26
- My essentials - dogcow, 2015-07-15, 18:25
- The Great Dismantling [weapon management guide] -
dogcow,
2015-07-13, 17:31