Shotguns vs fusion rifles (Destiny)

by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, September 08, 2015, 16:20 (3601 days ago) @ CyberKN

I won't know until 3 hours from now when the patch downloads, BUT

I am very surprised to see only the perks nerfed on shotguns, rather than the the amount of range inherent to the guns. Even without the perks, you can still get kills from some distance away in PvP. This will help, but it is not a solution in the long term.

I also get what they are doing to fusion rifles. They want to make long range ones less deadly, and short range ones better for competing with shotguns. Again, shotguns will still win, and everybody who loves fusion rifles loses because the long range ones were the only ones that were actually any good.

As for the incredible nerf to shotguns in PvE, I will only accept this if there are not any bullet sponge enemies anymore.

Expect a full field test shortly.

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Patch Notes - 2.0.0 - The one to prepare for Oryx. - CyberKN, 2015-09-08, 15:31
- The weapon tuning has changed. - Funkmon, 2015-09-08, 15:39
  - Nerf ALL the perks! - CyberKN, 2015-09-08, 15:52
    - Nerf ALL the perks! - LordOwen, 2015-09-08, 15:56
    - Seriously... - Mid7night, 2015-09-08, 16:04
      - Seriously... - Funkmon, 2015-09-08, 16:15
  - The weapon tuning has changed. - squidnh3, 2015-09-08, 15:59
  - Fieldscout & Thunderlord - dogcow, 2015-09-08, 17:50
    - Fieldscout & Thunderlord... I take that back - dogcow, 2015-09-08, 18:35
      - Magazine is now 49. - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 19:04
- Patch Notes - 2.0.0 - The one to prepare for Oryx. - kanbo, 2015-09-08, 15:56
  - Will no one think of the robots!?! - CougRon, 2015-09-08, 16:18
  - How the hell am I supposed to find my way now?! - ZackDark, 2015-09-08, 16:41
- Kellhunter Cloak only gives 3 defense? Huh? - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 15:58
- Young Ahamkara Spine gives second tripmine grenade. - CyberKN, 2015-09-08, 16:00
  - Twice as many chances to kill myself! - Funkmon, 2015-09-08, 16:01
  - Some work on Exotic Balance - Durandal, 2015-09-08, 16:03
  - Hello my old, exotic friend - CaneCutter, 2015-09-08, 18:55
- Patch Notes - 2.0.0 - The one to prepare for Oryx. - Ragashingo, 2015-09-08, 16:02
  - Patch Notes - 2.0.0 - The one to prepare for Oryx. - bluerunner, 2015-09-08, 18:17
- RIP shotguns - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-08, 16:09
  - RIP shotguns - MacAddictXIV, 2015-09-08, 16:10
    - RIP shotguns - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-08, 16:22
  - RIP shotguns - Funkmon, 2015-09-08, 16:17
    - Exactly what I was too lazy to post. - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-08, 16:21
  - RIP arcbolt grenade spam crucible setup - DreadPirateWes, 2015-09-08, 19:47
    - Hello Spine of Young Ahamkara tripmine spam crucible setup! - DreadPirateWes, 2015-09-08, 19:53
      - +1 - Chewbaccawakka, 2015-09-09, 00:17
  - :'( - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-09-08, 21:50
- B.net is down for me - Here's a mirror (Reddit) - JDQuackers, 2015-09-08, 16:13
- The most needed change: - Cody Miller, 2015-09-08, 16:14
  - The most needed change: - Kermit, 2015-09-08, 16:31
- Shotguns vs fusion rifles - Cody Miller, 2015-09-08, 16:20
  - Shotguns vs fusion rifles - Ragashingo, 2015-09-08, 16:27
    - Range has been changed to an extent - someotherguy, 2015-09-08, 16:39
- Light and damage - Cody Miller, 2015-09-08, 16:29
  - I agree. 40 is the new 20. - Funkmon, 2015-09-08, 16:33
    - I agree. 40 is the new 20. - someotherguy, 2015-09-08, 16:46
    - It's the exact same system, except more granular - kidtsunami, 2015-09-08, 17:42
  - Light and damage - EffortlessFury, 2015-09-08, 17:50
    - Light and damage - Cody Miller, 2015-09-08, 18:03
      - For abilities, though? - ZackDark, 2015-09-08, 22:14
- Woo Defender Bubbles buff! - dogcow, 2015-09-08, 17:32
  - wonder if this affects the crystal room on Crota's End? - unoudid, 2015-09-08, 17:48
- Patrol has difficulty options now. - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 17:43
  - Patrol has difficulty options now. - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-09-08, 20:39
- Stranger's Rifle is now Legendary? - CougRon, 2015-09-08, 17:52
  - Confirmed! And it can be ascended with L. Marks! - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 17:54
    - Aww. :( - Funkmon, 2015-09-08, 17:54
    - Is Etheric light no longer usable? - unoudid, 2015-09-08, 19:49
      - Is Etheric light no longer usable? - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 19:56
  - If you scrapped your Stranger's Rifle... - DiscipleN2k, 2015-09-10, 13:05
- You can also watch the Prelude Cinematic - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 17:58
- Cinematics can be skipped - Kahzgul, 2015-09-08, 19:11
  - Cinematics can be skipped - Kermit, 2015-09-08, 19:42
    - Cinematics can be skipped - dogcow, 2015-09-08, 19:51
      - I'm running my first story mode playthrough solo/unjoinable - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-09-08, 20:41
        
        Ditto - DiscipleN2k, 2015-09-08, 20:47
      - Cinematics can be skipped - Kermit, 2015-09-08, 21:24
        
        Cinematics can be skipped - Cody Miller, 2015-09-08, 21:26
        
        Fire team Leader would be ok - dogcow, 2015-09-08, 23:43
- Improved Netcode! WOO!!! - dogcow, 2015-09-08, 19:42
  - HUGE - Kahzgul, 2015-09-08, 22:25
- Grimoire hasn't been updated yet for Xbox. - Xenos, 2015-09-08, 19:44
- Five loot drops in King's Fall! - Cody Miller, 2015-09-08, 21:08
- New heroic strike modifiers! - JDQuackers, 2015-09-08, 22:07
- Loving the new missions in Patrol! So refreshing! - Leviathan, 2015-09-08, 22:46
- Missing patch note: exotic weapon perks have audio cues - JDQuackers, 2015-09-08, 22:51
- list of 'undocumented' features? - CougRon, 2015-09-08, 23:40
- New orbit screen music is rad - LostSpartan, 2015-09-09, 00:56
- If you haven't tried Hard Light BTW, it's beautiful! - Leviathan, 2015-09-09, 03:31
- Icebreaker now retains charge when you die - Xenos, 2015-09-09, 13:04

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