
This is 100% a fantastic thing. (Destiny)
So, let's say bungie does sell motes of light. The situation becomes one of "fun". Bungie says "hey, we realize that gaining experience for your weapons and armor can be a grind. So if you pay us, we'll let you skip that". As a player, if I don't want to pay, I am now essentially a 2nd class citizen. I need to spend more time to get the same out of the game than someone who is paying for motes. If my time is more precious than money (generally true once a certain income level is reached), and the people I play with are paying to skip that time, it becomes in my best interest to do so. Not because micro-transactions are bad or whatever. But because the game is different if I choose not to pay.
This is the same as not buying TTK really, on a much smaller scale, and I think that was cody's big concern. The game, quite possibly, will fracture into two different games with two different playerbases. The "leechers" that don't pay but pony up their time, and the "feeders" that are paying and thus feel entitled to more differentiation than the "leeches" that aren't.
I'll admit; I hadn't looked at in that light. It's an expansion of the LFG "must have Gjallarhorn" problem, in a way. People will naturally look for ways to elevate themselves above others, even if it's just "I had the money to buy this useless video game crap and level faster than you."
I really enjoy destiny. Bungie has done something amazing with this game. But some of the MMO aspects are a little disturbing to me.
I guess logically I can't disagree with that. But I personally play the game how I want to play and ignore the fact that I am "behind" a large percentage of the player base that engages with the game in that way, so I don't give it much thought.
I usually do the daily story and crucible for the Legendary Marks. But if I don't get around to it, it doesn't bother me. I know plenty of people that HAVE to do those, or they're pissed because they "missed out" on 30 Legendary Marks. I just don't play the game the way a lot of folks do.
Complete thread:
- Tess returns to the tower -
CyberKN,
2015-10-05, 20:37
- Thank god! A new currency! -
Funkmon,
2015-10-05, 20:38
- Thank god! A new currency! -
red robber,
2015-10-05, 20:41
- Everything makes Cody quit the game. -
Funkmon,
2015-10-05, 20:42
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
red robber,
2015-10-05, 20:47
- ----Line in the sand---- -
INSANEdrive,
2015-10-05, 21:00
- Also... - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-05, 21:08
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 21:47
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 21:54
- Sounds pretty serious to me. - Cody Miller, 2015-10-05, 21:56
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-05, 22:40
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 23:19
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-05, 23:41
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 23:50
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-06, 01:02
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Avateur,
2015-10-06, 01:17
- Sounds pretty serious to me. - cheapLEY, 2015-10-06, 01:21
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Avateur,
2015-10-06, 01:17
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-06, 01:02
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 23:50
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-05, 23:41
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 23:19
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 21:54
- Sounds pretty serious to me. - Funkmon, 2015-10-05, 21:58
- Sounds pretty serious to me. - Cody Miller, 2015-10-07, 18:00
- ----Line in the sand---- -
INSANEdrive,
2015-10-05, 21:00
- Sounds pretty serious to me. -
red robber,
2015-10-05, 20:47
- Everything makes Cody quit the game. -
Funkmon,
2015-10-05, 20:42
- Thank god! A new currency! -
red robber,
2015-10-05, 20:41
- Tess returns to the tower -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 21:01
- Agreed
- INSANEdrive, 2015-10-05, 21:01
- Kotaku says this means free missions, DLC -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 21:16
- Did see. - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-05, 21:23
- Everyone should read ^this^. Could be GREAT news.
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-05, 21:23
- Kotaku says this means free missions, DLC -
car15,
2015-10-05, 23:01
- Microtransactions meant free DLC for Mass Effect 3 - Kahzgul, 2015-10-05, 23:13
- Kotaku says this means free missions, DLC -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 21:16
- Tess returns to the tower - kanbo, 2015-10-05, 21:06
- Agreed
- Really Bungie? F***ing really? -
someotherguy,
2015-10-05, 21:04
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 21:31
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 21:55
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:01
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? - Funkmon, 2015-10-05, 22:03
- 100% Conjecture... -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 22:11
- 100% Conjecture... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:15
- 100% Conjecture... - Korny, 2015-10-05, 22:33
- 100% Conjecture... - Kahzgul, 2015-10-05, 23:22
- 100% Conjecture... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:15
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? - Ragashingo, 2015-10-05, 22:44
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:01
- Really cheapLEY? F***ing really? -
someotherguy,
2015-10-05, 22:26
- Really cheapLEY? F***ing really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:37
- Really cheapLEY? F***ing really? - someotherguy, 2015-10-05, 23:35
- Really cheapLEY? F***ing really? -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-05, 23:30
- Thank you. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 23:35
- What is with you people?! -
someotherguy,
2015-10-05, 23:51
- What is with you people?! -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 23:59
- What is with you people?! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-06, 00:05
- What is with you people?! -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-06, 00:11
- What is with you people?! - someotherguy, 2015-10-06, 00:15
- What is with you people?! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-06, 00:23
- What is with you people?! - Harmanimus, 2015-10-06, 00:40
- But... but... where are the numbers? - kidtsunami, 2015-10-06, 12:04
- What is with you people?! -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-06, 00:11
- What is with you people?! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-06, 00:05
- What is with you people?! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-06, 00:11
- I knew this was coming - someotherguy, 2015-10-06, 00:12
- What is with you people?! -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-06, 00:12
- What is with you people?! -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 00:22
- What is with you people?! -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-06, 01:21
- Fair enough -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 01:23
- Fair enough - cheapLEY, 2015-10-06, 01:33
- Fair enough -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 01:23
- What is with you people?! -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-06, 01:21
- What is with you people?! -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 00:22
- What is with you people?! -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 23:59
- What is with you people?! -
someotherguy,
2015-10-05, 23:51
- On Entitlement -
someotherguy,
2015-10-05, 23:49
- On Entitlement -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-06, 00:28
- Almost had me -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 01:01
- Almost had me -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-06, 04:30
- Words are much better than emotes - Pyromancy, 2015-10-06, 10:04
- Almost had me - someotherguy, 2015-10-06, 10:51
- Almost had me -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-06, 04:30
- Almost had me -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 01:01
- On Entitlement -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-06, 00:28
- Thank you. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 23:35
- Really cheapLEY? F***ing really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:37
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 21:55
- Really someotherguy? F***ing really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 21:31
- >Sigh<
- dogcow, 2015-10-05, 21:06
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-05, 21:16
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? - dogcow, 2015-10-05, 21:19
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
Leviathan,
2015-10-05, 21:20
- Wrong, actually... -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 21:25
- Wrong, actually... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:06
- Wrong, actually... - cheapLEY, 2015-10-05, 22:07
- But you only have conjecture - kidtsunami, 2015-10-05, 22:23
- I fully disagree -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-05, 23:26
- I fully disagree - Cody Miller, 2015-10-06, 00:13
- Wrong, actually... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:06
- Wrong, actually... -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 21:25
- Nah I'm in the same boat as you. - LostSpartan, 2015-10-05, 21:22
- *Raises hand*
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-05, 21:25
- Nope, there are a lot of us that like it.
- Xenos, 2015-10-05, 21:30
- No, not at all. - cheapLEY, 2015-10-05, 21:33
- Agreed. Cosmetic is cosmetic. No harm, no foul.
- yakaman, 2015-10-05, 21:47
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-10-05, 21:47
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:02
- Yes, yet a resounding no. - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-05, 22:08
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-05, 22:23
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:30
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-05, 22:39
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:30
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-05, 22:48
- Indeed.
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-05, 22:48
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:49
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? - Ragashingo, 2015-10-05, 22:53
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-05, 22:55
- Indeed.
- Hoping We Can Preview 'Em First. - Morpheus, 2015-10-05, 23:32
- Am I the only one who's actually happy about this? - CommandrCleavage, 2015-10-06, 10:33
- Is new currency a running joke inside Bungie at this point?
- uberfoop, 2015-10-05, 21:26
- I certainly hope so! :p
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-05, 21:36
- I certainly hope so! :p
- Can we trade Silver for those darn flakes? :p -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-05, 21:30
- No pay to win, even in joke form, plz. :P
- Kahzgul, 2015-10-05, 23:27
- No pay to win, even in joke form, plz. :P
- Tess returns to the tower -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 21:36
- Tess returns to the tower -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 21:39
- Tess returns to the tower -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 21:51
- Tess returns to the tower -
Revenant1988,
2015-10-05, 22:29
- Tess returns to the tower -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:31
- The struggle is real.
- INSANEdrive, 2015-10-05, 22:37
- The struggle is real.
- Tess returns to the tower -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 22:31
- Tess returns to the tower -
Revenant1988,
2015-10-05, 22:29
- Tess returns to the tower -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-05, 21:51
- Tess returns to the tower -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 21:39
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 21:36
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-05, 21:59
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:06
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-05, 22:19
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:26
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-06, 01:06
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-06, 01:15
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. - slycrel, 2015-10-06, 01:37
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-06, 01:43
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-06, 02:03
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. - cheapLEY, 2015-10-06, 02:16
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-06, 02:03
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-06, 01:15
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-06, 01:06
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:26
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-05, 22:19
- I wish I was this eloquent
- someotherguy, 2015-10-06, 01:11
- Flattery will get you nowhere! ;)
- slycrel, 2015-10-06, 01:12
- Flattery will get you nowhere! ;)
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-05, 22:06
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
someotherguy,
2015-10-05, 22:42
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-05, 22:59
- Yes -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 00:08
- Yes -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-06, 01:30
- Yes -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 01:33
- Yeah, I'm cautious - kidtsunami, 2015-10-06, 12:11
- Yes -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 01:33
- Yes -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-06, 01:30
- Yes -
someotherguy,
2015-10-06, 00:08
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Korny,
2015-10-05, 23:09
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. - Cody Miller, 2015-10-06, 00:05
- I don't really know what you're saying - someotherguy, 2015-10-06, 00:35
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Harmanimus,
2015-10-05, 23:12
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-06, 00:07
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. - Harmanimus, 2015-10-06, 00:51
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. - Korny, 2015-10-06, 04:52
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-06, 00:07
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-05, 22:59
- Roommate Wanted: Tower Apartment - Kuga, 2015-10-05, 22:51
- This is 100% a fantastic thing. -
slycrel,
2015-10-05, 21:59
- cant wait for the PlayStation exclusive micro-transactions -
unoudid,
2015-10-05, 21:39
- I'm almost afraid to ask... Is that even a thing?
- INSANEdrive, 2015-10-05, 21:44
- coming soon? But not currently.
- unoudid, 2015-10-05, 21:47
- coming soon? But not currently.
- I'm almost afraid to ask... Is that even a thing?
- Hey Deej, might I suggest... - Korny, 2015-10-05, 21:57
- I wondered why we had up to 10 emotes but only got 1.
- slycrel, 2015-10-05, 22:00
- Rev don't care.
- Revenant1988, 2015-10-05, 22:32
- And just like that, the wild ride is over. -
car15,
2015-10-05, 22:56
- And just like that, the wild ride is over. - Korny, 2015-10-05, 23:11
- And just like that, the wild ride is over. -
petetheduck,
2015-10-05, 23:11
- And just like that, the wild ride is over. - car15, 2015-10-06, 00:38
- And just like that, the wild ride is over. - bluerunner, 2015-10-05, 23:18
- You must be Michael Jordan... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-05, 23:23
- You must be Michael Jordan... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-06, 00:15
- See? The comparison works on so many levels ;p
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-06, 00:27
- See? The comparison works on so many levels ;p
- You must be Michael Jordan... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-06, 00:15
- Where AM I?!.... -
Mid7night,
2015-10-06, 00:16
- Where AM I?!.... - petetheduck, 2015-10-06, 00:18
- Nuke the thread from (Dead) orbit. - LostSpartan, 2015-10-06, 01:26
- Really? -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-06, 01:52
- He's Got A Point. - Morpheus, 2015-10-06, 05:07
- XKCD forever.... -
slycrel,
2015-10-06, 12:09
- Ha, those were my exact words. XKCD <3
- someotherguy, 2015-10-06, 13:00
- Ha, those were my exact words. XKCD <3
- +1
- TheeChaos, 2015-10-06, 12:41
- Petition to call it the Eververse Dancing and Acting Company - Dan de Board, 2015-10-06, 11:07
- Thank god! A new currency! -
Funkmon,
2015-10-05, 20:38