I actually agree with all of that. (Destiny)
Wow, you read a lot into his posts that I'm not seeing.
Instead of seeing it as that laziness-inspired last line of your post, how about "wow, there are so many different things to do that are undocumented - wouldn't it be nice if something told me which quests end at Exotics and which ones end at 220 Ghosts without my having to spend a week on the internet, researching?"
I mean, you could spend that week playing the game, doing those quests, and finding out for yourself. It's like he wants to know the answers before he even asks the questions.
I had no clue at all that ranking up with the Gunsmith was worth doing until someone told me it was. I'd been trained, over the course of a year, by Bungie themselves, that ranking up a vendor got me stuff I didn't really want (vendor-rolled weapons in year 1 were generally crap compared to what I was getting in the field; I can't remember a SINGLE GUN I used for any length of time that I got from a vendor). Now, TTK comes along, and completely changes that paradigm... but doesn't really tell me about it. (Doing quests for the Vanguard still gets me low-light-leveled stuff - I shard 95% of it.) How hard would it be for them to add, say, a line to one of the bot janitors to the effect of "hey, have you visited the gunsmith recently? He's got some good stuff these days!"
How exactly do you go about not ranking up your factions? You can't.
You ONLY rank up the factions you're allied with. In Year 1, for me, that was ONLY Vanguard - because I didn't see anything useful come out of DO, or NM, or FWC. (If you didn't wear their marks, you didn't get rep for them.) Every level, I got motes and some crappy armor - not enough motes to care about, armor that became parts as fast as I could hold the button.
I NEVER got a godly roll on a gun - I don't think I even realized you could get non-standard rolls on rank-up packages. Until TTK dropped, and I got to test out 'Old Guard', I NEVER (not once) saw a shader that made me say more than 'meh'. Ships? They're almost all the same. I use Green ships on my characters now, because they're the cleanest.
I'm no longer speaking for Mono - this is MY experience. I play way more than he does - I have over a thousand hours of playtime in on this game. And when TTK dropped, and I saw you could get Gunsmith rep by trying out guns there, I did that. And it sucked. So I didn't do it again. For WEEKS.
I only went back because someone said "hey, you're never going to be able to get these guns without ranking up with the Gunsmith."
It never occurred to me that the Gunsmith, unlike every other NPC vendor in the game, had actual EXOTICS I could get, by doing these boring tests. Nothing I'd done to that point suggested that might be a mechanic. Not sure why you think that's obvious - it wasn't, at all, to me.
Complete thread:
- Remember why Bungie nerfed Gjallarhorn? -
Korny,
2015-10-30, 03:52
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 04:02
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
FyreWulff,
2015-10-30, 05:38
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice - someotherguy, 2015-10-30, 08:56
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice - Kahzgul, 2015-10-30, 13:45
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice - Funkmon, 2015-10-30, 08:19
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-30, 15:00
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 16:30
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice - Schedonnardus, 2015-10-30, 17:58
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 16:30
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
Korny,
2015-10-30, 15:53
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice - Kahzgul, 2015-10-30, 17:07
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-30, 17:13
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
FyreWulff,
2015-10-30, 05:38
- What's Touch of Malice? -
Morpheus,
2015-10-30, 05:05
- What's Touch of Malice? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-30, 05:09
- Wow, That's.... -
Morpheus,
2015-10-30, 05:41
- Wow, That's.... -
stabbim,
2015-10-30, 15:09
- Wow, That's.... -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 16:33
- Wow, That's.... - Cody Miller, 2015-10-30, 19:21
- Wow, That's.... -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 16:33
- Wow, That's.... -
stabbim,
2015-10-30, 15:09
- Wow, That's.... -
Morpheus,
2015-10-30, 05:41
- What's Touch of Malice? -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-30, 05:09
- Noticed this yesterday -
TheeChaos,
2015-10-30, 09:30
- Why don't you use the FTB?
- Funkmon, 2015-10-30, 09:41
- Why don't you use the FTB? - TheeChaos, 2015-10-30, 09:51
- Why don't you use the FTB? -
Schedonnardus,
2015-10-30, 12:30
- +1
- TheeChaos, 2015-10-30, 12:36
- +1
- Why don't you use the FTB?
- Remember why Bungie nerfed Gjallarhorn? -
bluerunner,
2015-10-30, 11:22
- +1 would join.
- dogcow, 2015-10-30, 12:48
- count me out, I guess - Kahzgul, 2015-10-30, 13:47
- +1 would join.
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 12:36
- I'm not sure I agree. -
Stuntmutt,
2015-10-30, 13:41
- Agree with you 100% - Xenos, 2015-10-30, 14:08
- I'm not sure I agree. -
stabbim,
2015-10-30, 15:16
- Ruin Wake - marmot 1333, 2015-10-30, 16:28
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 16:38
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 17:33
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:17
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 19:25
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:29
- I actually agree with all of that. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-30, 19:34
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:37
- I actually agree with all of that. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-30, 20:00
- I actually agree with all of that. - Monochron, 2015-10-30, 20:57
- I actually agree with all of that. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-30, 20:00
- Figured it out I believe -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 19:42
- Figured it out I believe - Monochron, 2015-10-30, 19:47
- Are you sure? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-30, 20:32
- Are YOU sure? :) -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 20:36
- Woops! My bad, lol. Thanks for clarifying :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-30, 20:46
- Woops! My bad, lol. Thanks for clarifying :)
- Are YOU sure? :) -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 20:36
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:37
- I actually agree with all of that. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-30, 19:34
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:29
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 21:06
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 21:14
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 21:47
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 22:01
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 22:40
- I actually agree with all of that. - cheapLEY, 2015-10-30, 23:26
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 23:56
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-31, 00:11
- I actually agree with all of that. - Claude Errera, 2015-10-31, 00:44
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-31, 00:11
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 22:40
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 22:01
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 21:47
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-30, 21:14
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 19:25
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:17
- I actually agree with all of that. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 17:33
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 13:55
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 16:44
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 16:52
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-30, 16:58
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost - Monochron, 2015-10-30, 19:18
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 17:23
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost - Monochron, 2015-10-30, 19:20
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Xenos,
2015-10-30, 16:52
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-10-30, 17:12
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost - Kahzgul, 2015-10-30, 17:26
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
slycrel,
2015-10-30, 19:33
- Wait seriously? -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:41
- Wait seriously? -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-10-30, 19:52
- Wait seriously? - Monochron, 2015-10-30, 20:54
- Wait seriously? -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-10-30, 19:52
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost - bluerunner, 2015-10-31, 00:19
- Wait seriously? -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 19:41
- This new way of getting weapons makes me feel lost -
Monochron,
2015-10-30, 16:44
- I'm not sure I agree. -
Stuntmutt,
2015-10-30, 13:41
- Except everyone can get Touch of Malice -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-30, 04:02