
They fill a niche. (Destiny)
Specifically, I think, for scout rifles. When I use a Scout rifle, in general, I sacrifice a lot in the mid-to-short range game. A fusion rifle leaves my short game exposed to shotguns without a counter, since scouts only really excel at long range; but using a shotty leaves me exposed to fusion rifles, which the scout can't out-aim or kill fast enough against at mid-range. The vestian is a middle ground; it can't necessarily beat either FR's or shotty's at their ideal range, but it can certainly come close to both. The subreddit is a big fan of the MIDA-Vestian combo, and I can see why: in terms of the variety of ranges, they cover nearly all lengths of engagement.
I agree with you Banana. I'm a big fan of hard hitting pulse rifles, but they suck up close. If you don't land those headshots, you are done. Having a shotty as a backup leaves you vulnerable to HC's, Fusion Rifles and fast firing pulses and scouts. You also have to battle a shotty with a shotty if you are getting rushed. This means your shottie needs to out range the enemies and you need to get your timing right. Too early or too late and you are done. Also I'm a titan so the shotty to melee attack doesn't work either. I'm investigating using the sidearm, since I mostly use my special weapon as a defense for up close encounters. I like that I can begin firing before my target gets too close and that I always spawn with ammo.
Complete thread:
- Dreg's Promise -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 03:39
- 8.5/10 good review would read again
- Raflection, 2015-08-17, 03:43
- Sounds interesting, and gives me something to consider. -
cheapLEY,
2015-08-17, 12:29
- Sounds interesting, and gives me something to consider. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 12:37
- One issue with LoW -
Durandal,
2015-08-17, 12:45
- One issue with LoW -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 12:47
- One issue with LoW -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 14:57
- One issue with LoW - MacAddictXIV, 2015-08-17, 14:59
- One issue with LoW -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 14:57
- One issue with LoW - stabbim, 2015-08-17, 14:59
- One issue with LoW -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 12:47
- One issue with LoW -
Durandal,
2015-08-17, 12:45
- As someone who has all 3... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-17, 13:13
- +1
- Funkmon, 2015-08-17, 13:20
- As someone who has all 3... -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 15:53
- As someone who has all 3... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-17, 16:33
- +1
- Sounds interesting, and gives me something to consider. -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 14:56
- Sounds interesting, and gives me something to consider. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-08-17, 14:58
- Sounds interesting, and gives me something to consider. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 12:37
- Agree, except for the fun to use part. -
Funkmon,
2015-08-17, 13:20
- Sidearms are inherently flawed -
Durandal,
2015-08-17, 14:02
- Sidearms are inherently flawed -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 14:07
- Sidearm sidebar on range and hipfire. -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-17, 14:10
- It definitely feels like it. -
Funkmon,
2015-08-17, 14:12
- I think the ADS reticle is bugged - CyberKN, 2015-08-17, 14:21
- Sidearm sidebar on range and hipfire. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-17, 14:15
- Dreg's Promise definitely benefits - someotherguy, 2015-08-17, 15:17
- It definitely feels like it. -
Funkmon,
2015-08-17, 14:12
- Sidearm sidebar on range and hipfire. -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-17, 14:10
- Sidearms are inherently flawed -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-17, 14:36
- That is a perfect time to use two shotguns.
- ProbablyLast, 2015-08-17, 14:39
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun.
- bluerunner, 2015-08-17, 14:44
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-17, 14:46
- Sleeper Stimulant?
- CyberKN, 2015-08-17, 14:46
- Sleeper Stimulant? - Cody Miller, 2015-08-17, 14:48
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
bluerunner,
2015-08-17, 15:09
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. - stabbim, 2015-08-18, 03:24
- Sleeper Stimulant?
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-17, 14:46
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 14:48
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
bluerunner,
2015-08-17, 15:02
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-08-17, 15:12
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
bluerunner,
2015-08-17, 15:02
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 14:48
- It would have to be non-exotic - ProbablyLast, 2015-08-17, 14:47
- Did you ever play AC4: Freedom Cry? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-17, 14:47
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-17, 14:46
- I hope we get a heavy shotgun.
- That is a perfect time to use two shotguns.
- Sidearms are inherently flawed -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-08-17, 14:07
- Agree, except for the fun to use part. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-17, 14:48
- Agree, except for the fun to use part. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-08-17, 14:49
- Sidearms are inherently flawed -
Durandal,
2015-08-17, 14:02
- Weapon Types -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-17, 14:42
- Weapon Types -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 14:53
- Weapon Types -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 16:08
- Weapon Types -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 20:58
- Weapon Types -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 21:59
- Weapon Types - stabbim, 2015-08-18, 03:20
- Weapon Types -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 21:59
- Weapon Types -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 20:58
- Weapon Types -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-17, 17:39
- Weapon Types -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-17, 18:24
- lmao. this was perfect
- Raflection, 2015-08-17, 19:16
- lmao. this was perfect
- Weapon Types - Ragashingo, 2015-08-17, 18:47
- Weapon Types -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-17, 18:24
- Weapon Types -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 16:08
- Weapon Types -
Ragashingo,
2015-08-17, 16:02
- Shotgun range - Durandal, 2015-08-17, 17:02
- Weapon Types -
Kahzgul,
2015-08-17, 19:16
- ^ this is actually pretty amazing - Raflection, 2015-08-17, 19:21
- Weapon Types - CyberKN, 2015-08-17, 19:21
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
ZackDark,
2015-08-18, 01:07
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms - Leviathan, 2015-08-18, 01:16
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms - Durandal, 2015-08-18, 12:45
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Korny,
2015-08-18, 13:30
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-18, 13:59
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Korny,
2015-08-18, 18:36
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-18, 18:50
- PvE - Blackt1g3r, 2015-08-18, 18:59
- They fill a niche. -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-18, 19:03
- They fill a niche. - red robber, 2015-08-18, 23:36
- They fill a niche. - stabbim, 2015-08-19, 02:26
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms - Ragashingo, 2015-08-18, 20:00
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms - ZackDark, 2015-08-18, 22:33
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-18, 18:50
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Korny,
2015-08-18, 18:36
- I feel like sidearms are supposed to be... well, sidearms -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-18, 13:59
- Weapon Types -
stabbim,
2015-08-17, 14:53
- 8.5/10 good review would read again