
I'm missing something... (Destiny)
Each shot of PvE golden gun, without any buffs, does 864 damage at 299 light to a raid thrall. My scout rifle does 1064 with a critical and 842 with a normal hit. So my GG is basically a high impact scout rifle that can't critical, has only 3 shots, takes 2 seconds to turn on, and has a 4 minute reload.
Huh, so is there a big disconnect between Crucible GG and PvE GG? FOr instance if my Warlock were that Thrall in PvP the GG shot (at 864?) WOULD kill me unless I have some very specific Sunsinger build on... But that would mean that a headshot from your Scout rifle would more than kill me? I'm missing something.
Perhaps Gunslinger's super is under powered in PvE but the damage is much higher in PvP?
Yeah, the PvE damage of GG is atrocious and is definitely not a direct relation to the PvP damage. You can GG anything that you could critically 1-shot anyway, which - to my - means why bother with GG? It's only good for popping solar shields, or (with Nighthawk) doing large damage to a boss. Even Nighthawk doesn't 1-shot the crota knight, even if that night is tethered by another hunter's shadow shot. It's stupid. Plus GG can't crit, so it does less damage than almost any other weapon against some bosses like Golgoroth.
That being said, while GG is definitely decent in PvP, I don't think anyone should be able to survive a single shot of a super, with the exception of Defender Titans in their bubbles (who take 3 shots- 2 to pop the bubble and the third to kill the defender).
I mean, the crux of my argument is GG sucks in PvE and, while decent in PvP, does not at all compare to the Sunbreaker, which needs nerfing.
Complete thread:
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 15:02
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis - bswoboda06, 2015-10-08, 15:12
- Agreed -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 15:22
- ^This - Doooskey, 2015-10-08, 16:32
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-08, 15:29
- Old Warlock classes seem to hold pretty well. -
yakaman,
2015-10-08, 16:47
- Agreed.
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-08, 16:51
- Agreed.
- Old Warlock classes seem to hold pretty well. -
yakaman,
2015-10-08, 16:47
- A few thoughts -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-08, 15:32
- One problem with that... -
Korny,
2015-10-08, 15:51
- One problem with that... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-08, 15:59
- One problem with that... -
CaneCutter,
2015-10-08, 16:50
- I second that notion
- BeardFade, 2015-10-08, 22:32
- I second that notion
- One problem with that... -
CaneCutter,
2015-10-08, 16:50
- One problem with that... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-08, 16:04
- One problem with that... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-08, 17:09
- One problem with that... -
Korny,
2015-10-08, 17:17
- One problem with that... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-08, 17:24
- One problem with that... - Korny, 2015-10-08, 17:34
- One problem with that... - squidnh3, 2015-10-08, 17:54
- One problem with that... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-08, 17:24
- One problem with that... - Ragashingo, 2015-10-08, 17:25
- One problem with that... -
Korny,
2015-10-08, 17:17
- One problem with that... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-08, 15:59
- One problem with that... -
Korny,
2015-10-08, 15:51
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis - Harmanimus, 2015-10-08, 15:33
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-08, 15:36
- I've got both - Durandal, 2015-10-08, 16:22
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis - Kahzgul, 2015-10-08, 16:44
- Agreed - TheeChaos, 2015-10-08, 15:57
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Monochron,
2015-10-08, 16:59
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 17:19
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-08, 17:45
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-08, 17:49
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 18:31
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-08, 18:43
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 19:15
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-08, 19:33
- Maybe I'm crazy... - Kahzgul, 2015-10-08, 21:03
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-08, 19:33
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 19:15
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-08, 18:43
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 18:31
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-08, 17:49
- Maybe I'm crazy... - Monochron, 2015-10-08, 19:52
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-08, 17:45
- Maybe I'm crazy... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 17:19
- Disagree with underpowered since HoW -
Up North 65,
2015-10-08, 19:50
- Disagree with underpowered since HoW -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 19:54
- Isnt that the point of armor exotics? -
Up North 65,
2015-10-08, 20:01
- Isnt that the point of armor exotics? -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 20:03
- Isnt that the point of armor exotics? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-08, 20:05
- Isnt that the point of armor exotics? -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 20:03
- Are you sure? -
Monochron,
2015-10-08, 20:53
- Are you sure? -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 20:56
- Are you sure? -
Monochron,
2015-10-09, 13:55
- Are you sure? -
Xenos,
2015-10-09, 13:58
- Are you sure? -
Monochron,
2015-10-09, 14:13
- Are you sure? -
Xenos,
2015-10-09, 14:17
- Totally agree!
- Monochron, 2015-10-09, 14:47
- Totally agree!
- Are you sure? -
Xenos,
2015-10-09, 14:17
- Are you sure? -
Monochron,
2015-10-09, 14:13
- Are you sure? -
Xenos,
2015-10-09, 13:58
- Are you sure? -
Monochron,
2015-10-09, 13:55
- Numbers -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-08, 21:08
- Numbers -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-08, 23:36
- Numbers - Kahzgul, 2015-10-09, 02:21
- I'm missing something... -
Monochron,
2015-10-09, 13:59
- I'm missing something... - Xenos, 2015-10-09, 14:02
- I'm missing something... -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-09, 14:37
- I'm missing something... -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-09, 14:45
- I'm missing something... - Kahzgul, 2015-10-09, 19:55
- I'm missing something... - Xenos, 2015-10-09, 20:02
- I'm missing something... -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-09, 14:45
- Numbers -
squidnh3,
2015-10-09, 14:25
- Numbers - Kahzgul, 2015-10-09, 14:40
- Numbers -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-08, 23:36
- Are you sure? -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 20:56
- Isnt that the point of armor exotics? -
Up North 65,
2015-10-08, 20:01
- Disagree with underpowered since HoW -
Xenos,
2015-10-08, 19:54
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
dogcow,
2015-10-09, 13:14
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
Xenos,
2015-10-09, 13:43
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis - Ragashingo, 2015-10-09, 14:55
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis - dogcow, 2015-10-09, 14:58
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
Xenos,
2015-10-09, 13:43
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-10-09, 13:51
- Sunbreaker vs. Golden Gun, an in-depth analysis - Xenos, 2015-10-09, 13:56