I like fun. I want others to have fun too. (Destiny)
Losing ToO is the opposite of fun. Winning ToO means withholding fun from someone else.
Im going to keep playing ToO because I want to see the Lighthouse. I don't care about the Emblem or the Elemental Primaries, but I want to see The Lighthouse first hand. More than anything, I want that Grimoire card. Im going to get there eventually - If I can go 9-2 with no buffs I can go 7-1 with them. But Im not certain Im going to always have fun along the way, and yes, Im going to feel bad knowing that at least some of the people I beat are going to miss out on a cool place because they're "undeserving".
Course, if Bungie opens the Lighthouse up to tourists (look, but don't touch) on Bungie day or in a later expansion, I'd be sated. I dont need the stuff, I just want the experience (and for others to get to have it too).Edit: Just seen the above from Rev. I think the competition is the issue for me. Guns and emblems etc. are rewards. I don't mind people not getting rewards if they don't earn them. But an actual, physical space to explore? That's content (to me. Personal opinion, small distinction, YMMV caveat). Don't lock content behind PvP.
Not trying to be an asshole (believe me, Kermit, Louis Wu and others can attest I can be an asshole with very very little effort) but I see now that Bungie could've held off much of the teeth gnashing months ago from their users if they explicitly stated when engrams decrypt, the results are pulled from a pool that all other players at that moment are sharing.
Don't lock content behind PvP.
It is a mistake to tie that statement with ToO. But as it is clear, we shall agree to disagree.
- M
Complete thread:
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
Mad_Stylus,
2015-05-25, 03:31
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 03:46
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
Mad_Stylus,
2015-05-25, 04:23
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
dogcow,
2015-05-25, 06:04
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 06:07
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
slycrel,
2015-05-25, 06:14
- When I'm involved, you ALWAYS need a little luck ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-25, 10:42
- Trials of Osiris thoughts - Vortech, 2015-05-25, 16:13
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
slycrel,
2015-05-25, 06:14
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 06:07
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
dogcow,
2015-05-25, 06:04
- Trials of Osiris thoughts - Monochron, 2015-05-25, 13:30
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
Mad_Stylus,
2015-05-25, 04:23
- I don't know how I feel about ToO -
someotherguy,
2015-05-25, 19:35
- I don't know how I feel about ToO -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-25, 19:52
- I really like Elimination -
someotherguy,
2015-05-25, 20:36
- I really like Elimination -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-25, 21:13
- I really like Elimination -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 21:34
- Tried it last night - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-26, 11:01
- What is up with this line of thought? -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-05-26, 14:48
- What is up with this line of thought? -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-26, 14:59
- What is up with this line of thought? -
CyberKN,
2015-05-26, 15:23
- What is up with this line of thought? -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-26, 15:31
- What is up with this line of thought? -
someotherguy,
2015-05-26, 15:34
- Blame the primate brain. -
iconicbanana,
2015-05-26, 15:36
- Everything you say is bananas. - Revenant1988, 2015-05-26, 15:57
- Blame the primate brain. -
iconicbanana,
2015-05-26, 15:36
- What is up with this line of thought? - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-26, 19:49
- What is up with this line of thought? -
someotherguy,
2015-05-26, 15:34
- What is up with this line of thought? -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-26, 15:31
- What is up with this line of thought? - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-26, 20:47
- What is up with this line of thought? -
CyberKN,
2015-05-26, 15:23
- What is up with this line of thought? - Kermit, 2015-05-26, 15:00
- I like fun. I want others to have fun too. -
someotherguy,
2015-05-26, 15:26
- I like fun. I want others to have fun too. -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-05-26, 20:09
- I'm not sure I understand -
someotherguy,
2015-05-26, 22:03
- I'm not sure I understand -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-05-26, 23:39
- I'm not sure I understand - someotherguy, 2015-05-26, 23:48
- I'm not sure I understand -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-05-26, 23:39
- I'm not sure I understand -
someotherguy,
2015-05-26, 22:03
- I like fun. I want others to have fun too. -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-05-26, 20:09
- What is up with this line of thought? -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-26, 14:59
- I really like Elimination -
bluerunner,
2015-05-26, 16:59
- Nope. Invites don't work. - CyberKN, 2015-05-26, 17:00
- I really like Elimination -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 21:34
- I really like Elimination - DiscipleN2k, 2015-05-25, 22:45
- I really like Elimination -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-25, 21:13
- I don't know how I feel about ToO - slycrel, 2015-05-25, 22:41
- I really like Elimination -
someotherguy,
2015-05-25, 20:36
- I don't know how I feel about ToO -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-25, 19:52
- A though: what if we grant victories after Lighthouse? -
ZackDark,
2015-05-25, 21:41
- I like this human, he understands. - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-05-25, 21:45
- +7 - Beorn, 2015-05-25, 21:48
- ...and always seed your torrents to at least a 1:1 ratio. -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 21:49
- Sometimes nobody else wants the stuff I do… - Vortech, 2015-05-26, 01:07
- I like it. Sharing is caring! - someotherguy, 2015-05-26, 07:31
- An interesting thing that I noticed in ToO... -
Korny,
2015-05-26, 04:37
- An interesting thing that I noticed in ToO... - Avateur, 2015-05-27, 01:26
- Trials of Osiris thoughts -
CyberKN,
2015-05-25, 03:46