I think that's nonsense. (Destiny)

by CruelLEGACEY , Toronto, Sunday, January 24, 2016, 21:55 (3020 days ago) @ Claude Errera

This is a problem that has been solved by many previous games, and it's weird that Bungie has insisted on reinventing the wheel when it comes to handling lag, and - sadly - their new wheel is a little bit square.

In all the discussion about this topic I've seen, this is the assertion (and you've made it multiple times, so I'm pretty sure I'm not misinterpreting something you mean in a different way) that bothers me the most - because as far as I can tell, NO previous game has solved this problem. EVERY multiplayer game I've ever played has lag issues - it's just that they're not all the SAME lag issues.

I won't put words in Kahzgul's mouth, but my interpretation of his argument is that lag will happen in any online game... it's just that the way Destiny deals with lag creates an advantage for the lagger that doesn't exist in other games. I don't have Kahzgul's expertise or developer-side knowledge, but my anectodal experience very much lines up with what he is saying.

I've spent more time playing online shooters than any other genre over the past 15 years... From Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 to the Halo franchise, Gears, CoD, Titanfall, Battlefield, Splinter Cell, and many more. Lag is always an issue (more in some games than others). Personally, my experience with lag in pretty much every case but Destiny is the encounter turns into a giant coin toss. Lag makes things weird, and sometimes you come out on top, sometimes you don't. But with Destiny, I feel almost certain I will come out the looser every time I go toe-to-toe with a severe lagger. Either their shots don't register as they hit, so I don't know I'm being hit until they all kick in at once and I drop dead, or I empty 2 clips into their face without scoring a point of damage, and their teammate gets the jump on me while I'm reloading.

So while I don't understand the technical nuances of what is going on, I can say I feel disadvantaged against laggy Destiny players in a way that doesn't happen in most other games.

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BWU 01/21/2016 - CyberKN, 2016-01-21, 19:38
- Update's up! (Superior Post Edition) - Korny, 2016-01-21, 19:38
  - y u so slow? ;) - CyberKN, 2016-01-21, 19:41
    - Because I don't just hit paste and enter... ;) - Korny, 2016-01-21, 19:42
      - Some of us like reading the update ;) - CyberKN, 2016-01-21, 19:46
- I foresee a lot of this next month - Schedonnardus, 2016-01-21, 19:52
- Holy Crap! The Movie of the week *link* - Schedonnardus, 2016-01-21, 20:00
- Rift Iron Banner? This is madness! - ZackDark, 2016-01-21, 20:01
  - Some might call it sanity. - CyberKN, 2016-01-21, 20:03
  - I'm so $#@&ing stoked - Kahzgul, 2016-01-21, 20:19
    - I'm all for rotating gametypes, but IB lag in Rift? - ZackDark, 2016-01-21, 20:38
      - "IB lag"? - narcogen, 2016-01-22, 00:52
        
        Anecdotal evidence by a major part of the community, mostly - ZackDark, 2016-01-22, 01:47
        
        Anecdotal evidence by a major part of the community, mostly - Ragashingo, 2016-01-22, 03:05
        
        Anecdotal evidence by a major part of the community, mostly - ZackDark, 2016-01-22, 07:54
        
        "IB lag"? - Kahzgul, 2016-01-22, 04:32
  - intriguing - Blackt1g3r, 2016-01-21, 20:46
    - Most intriguing *Vids* - Korny, 2016-01-21, 21:15
  - Playing as a team will be even more important - unoudid, 2016-01-21, 20:54
    - On the plus side... - Korny, 2016-01-21, 21:00
- Matchmaking - they admit it. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-21, 20:23
  - Impossible. Wasn't in the patch notes. - Funkmon, 2016-01-21, 20:28
    - They admit that, too! But promise to tell us next time. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-21, 20:31
    - Programmer speak: Patch is client, not server. =) - slycrel, 2016-01-21, 21:18
  - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Claude Errera, 2016-01-21, 21:05
    - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Ragashingo, 2016-01-21, 21:13
    - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-21, 22:59
    - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Cody Miller, 2016-01-23, 04:37
      - ...it's in my blueprint kiosk. - CyberKN, 2016-01-23, 05:04
      - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-23, 08:49
  - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Ragashingo, 2016-01-21, 21:08
    - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-21, 22:54
    - I broke the mold - Durandal, 2016-01-22, 10:51
  - Matchmaking - they admit it. - narcogen, 2016-01-22, 01:00
    - Matchmaking - they admit it. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-22, 04:37
      - Matchmaking - they admit it. - narcogen, 2016-01-22, 09:06
        
        Matchmaking - they admit it. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-22, 15:15
        
        Matchmaking - they admit it. - Cody Miller, 2016-01-23, 04:39
        
        I think that's nonsense. - narcogen, 2016-01-23, 05:48
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-23, 08:55
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Funkmon, 2016-01-23, 12:57
        
        I think that's nonsense. - narcogen, 2016-01-24, 05:13
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-24, 08:36
        
        Totally agree - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-01-24, 12:23
        
        Both sides are correct. - ProbablyLast, 2016-01-24, 13:04
        
        My k/d goes up by half when I play at my parents' house. - Funkmon, 2016-01-24, 16:52
        
        Totally agree - Ragashingo, 2016-01-26, 00:13
        
        I think that's nonsense. - narcogen, 2016-01-24, 12:27
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-24, 17:29
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Claude Errera, 2016-01-24, 20:34
        
        I think that's nonsense. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-01-24, 21:55
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Claude Errera, 2016-01-24, 22:00
        
        I think that's nonsense. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-01-24, 22:19
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Claude Errera, 2016-01-24, 22:36
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Cody Miller, 2016-01-24, 22:41
        
        I think that's nonsense. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-01-24, 22:52
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-25, 23:59
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Ragashingo, 2016-01-26, 00:26
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-26, 03:41
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Ragashingo, 2016-01-26, 06:06
        
        I think that's nonsense. - Kahzgul, 2016-01-26, 07:49
- BWU 01/21/2016 - stabbim, 2016-01-21, 21:01
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  - BWU 01/21/2016 - Avateur, 2016-01-22, 01:45
    - BWU 01/21/2016 - Ragashingo, 2016-01-22, 02:19
      - BWU 01/21/2016 - Avateur, 2016-01-22, 02:37
        
        BWU 01/21/2016 - Ragashingo, 2016-01-22, 02:48
        
        BWU 01/21/2016 - Avateur, 2016-01-22, 05:42
        
        BWU 01/21/2016 - stabbim, 2016-01-22, 17:50
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        Couples SRL would be fun. :) - Ragashingo, 2016-01-22, 04:31
        
        Agreed - Avateur, 2016-01-22, 05:43
        
        +1 for SRL hopes - CyberKN, 2016-01-22, 15:44
- Bungie Brought It Upon Themselves. - Morpheus, 2016-01-22, 01:10
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