"Value", "enough being enough" and that feeling of Déjà vu (Destiny)

by Xenos , Shores of Time, Saturday, July 02, 2016, 12:58 (3159 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

I'm of 2 minds on your approach here. On the one hand, I think you're totally right in a way. But on the other hand, what you're saying can be interpreted as "this game is way more fun if you ignore/don't engage with a bunch of the stuff that Bungie put in there". I agree that the act of levelling stuff up, worrying about specs, min/maxing builds can all lead to more frustration than they're worth. But that stuff is in the game for a reason. For some people, fine-tuning a build so that you abilities and gear and perks all compliment each other in just the right way is very satisfying. Bungie knows this. The problem is that achieving those "goals" is way more of a pain in the ass than it should be. Same goes for the levelling-up mechanics.

I've had people respond to me in a similar way in the past, when I've complained about how frustrating it can be to run the raid 50 times and still not get the gun I wanted. Some would say "if you're not having fun, just don't do that!". But to me, the fun of this game is very much dependant on the weapons. Using a variety of weapons I enjoy is what keeps the combat fresh and exciting. So I don't like the fact that reaching the stuff I enjoy is often buried beneath a bunch of frustrating RNG or other mechanics.

You're right, but that doesn't mean those people are wrong. Your idea of fun baffles me personally. Part of the reason I love year 2 is because the really interesting guns all involve quests with steps I can follow to get them. I don't own almost any of the legendary guns that most people do because I just don't think it's worth the frustration to get them with the perfect roll. But I also have a vast array of guns I DO love, so why should I care?

The argument about "why did Bungie put it in then?" always bothers me because it implies that the game is made for a very limited set of playstyles. Those things ARE satisfying to SOME people, but most people I play with either don't care or have those ideas as passive goals. To my play style they ADD fun to the always fun moment to moment gameplay because I get random moments when my gear does improve or I find a gun that I like (hell, I admit I even enjoy just looking at the new gear even if it sucks). But I have no interest in doggedly pursuing the perfect setup, and I actually think despite what a lot of people think that Bungie doesn't expect the majority of players to chase the perfect setup in any kind of active way. If they had expected it then I don't think we would have seen as many improvements in the drop system because they would purposefully have been trying to drag everything out.

That doesn't mean I think you play the game WRONG, but the changes in the drop system in year 2 tend to help you get to a light level to play any activity you want quickly without losing your favorite gear. The rest is gravy.

Edit: This sounds more argumentative than I meant it. TL;DR: It's because they play differently than you, and that's not a bad thing.