
Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms (Destiny)
I think everyone who's been in the supremacy list is a bit sick of shotguns. Much like snipers in 3v3 modes, Shotguns are the go to weapon that crowds out everything else. The mobility is such that I can't even charge a mid impact FR before a Jugg titan can get close enough with a matador or PC+1 to one shot me.
The thing is, I like shotguns, and I don't want to go back to the days of the Halo shotgun that doesn't work past 4 feet.
I was thinking if Bungie just made two changes, it would probably fix most of my issues.
1. Invert Impact/Range.
The Matador, PC+1, CT-D, all have high impact and high range. Stability is unneeded. Fire rate is unneeded. Reload speed is a non-factor. People never use low range, low impact shotguns because those always lose in a PVP match up with this archetype in all situations. In PVE, people still mostly only use high impact shotguns as there doesn't seem to be a benefit to the low impact ones.
To fix this, Bungie should make high impact go with low range, and vice versa. Thus a low impact shotgun would have some use at longer ranges in PVP, and is less of a risk in PVE.
2. Make Stability Great Again
Stability on shotguns is a dump stat. No one cares about it. A heavy PVP friend of mine suggested making stability shrink the pellet cone of a shotgun. More Stability therefore would make the odds of a OHK more likely. A low stability, high rof, low impact shotgun would feel very different from a high stability, high impact gun. Now, much like FRs, you have a meaningful tradeoff in perks.
Anyway, this is just a rant since I've been in clash matches with FRs and Sidearms trying to complete my Thorn quest (again).
Complete thread:
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Durandal,
2016-10-13, 10:05
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - squidnh3, 2016-10-13, 12:23
- +1 Id be completely behind this -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 13:06
- +1 Id be completely behind this -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 13:31
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 14:20
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:13
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 16:48
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:50
- Weird - someotherguy, 2016-10-13, 17:30
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:50
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 16:48
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:13
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 14:20
- +1 Id be completely behind this -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 13:31
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Harmanimus, 2016-10-13, 15:01
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
slycrel,
2016-10-13, 15:13
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
dogcow,
2016-10-13, 15:35
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 15:54
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - dogcow, 2016-10-14, 18:05
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 15:54
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
dogcow,
2016-10-13, 15:35
- OT - Try Telesto - Blackt1g3r, 2016-10-13, 15:35
- I say revert all weapon changes back to 1.0. - Funkmon, 2016-10-13, 17:54
- Bungie needs a PvP Test Playlist - Kahzgul, 2016-10-13, 17:56
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
red robber,
2016-10-13, 18:05
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-13, 18:57
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:08
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-13, 19:20
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:28
- There's also pellet spread randomness -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 21:45
- There's also pellet spread randomness - MacAddictXIV, 2016-10-14, 13:15
- There's also pellet spread randomness -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 21:45
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:28
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Harmanimus, 2016-10-13, 22:28
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-13, 19:20
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:08
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-13, 18:57
- You know, my first ever post... -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 21:42
- Halo's Maps used more verticality than Destiny's do. -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-13, 21:59
- Halo also only had 1 sniper rifle -
Durandal,
2016-10-14, 14:10
- Or more accurately -
someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:33
- Or more accurately -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-14, 18:22
- Plus a central Heavy spawn, like in Trials - someotherguy, 2016-10-14, 18:47
- Or more accurately -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-14, 18:22
- Halo also only had 1 sniper rifle - Kahzgul, 2016-10-14, 18:24
- Or more accurately -
someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:33
- Halo also only had 1 sniper rifle -
Durandal,
2016-10-14, 14:10
- You know, my first ever post... -
squidnh3,
2016-10-14, 00:40
- Halo.... - Durandal, 2016-10-14, 14:21
- You know, my first ever post... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 16:01
- You know, my first ever post... -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-14, 17:42
- You know, my first ever post... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 19:15
- You know, my first ever post... - Harmanimus, 2016-10-14, 23:19
- You know, my first ever post... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 19:15
- You know, my first ever post... -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-14, 17:42
- Halo's Maps used more verticality than Destiny's do. -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-13, 21:59
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Mad_Stylus,
2016-10-14, 01:53
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dogcow,
2016-10-14, 13:01
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Cody Miller, 2016-10-14, 16:08
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Ragashingo, 2016-10-14, 14:49
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Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 16:04
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Xenos, 2016-10-14, 16:11
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-14, 16:23
- Jugg-User Protip -
someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:49
- Jugg-User Protip - Ragashingo, 2016-10-14, 18:05
- Jugg-User Protip -
someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:49
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms -
dogcow,
2016-10-14, 13:01