Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms (Destiny)
An easy way around this would be to have pre-set Crucible weapons. You'd have the weapons, and you'd have sub-archetypes, but they would be the only things you could use, guns-wise. Balance could be applied to these controlled elements.
Which I think is the main flaw with using Destiny to PVP.
Because of character customization, and how PVP games are balanced, all those little changes add up. Eventually, it gets to the point I have no idea what an enemy is capable of.
An example: I see a Titan with a shotgun out, running around. I dont know what his stats are, what his perks are, even what his subclass is. I cant even be sure his weapon is a good roll among that weapon type. Sure, it could be a Matador, but it could be a shit Matador or a good one.
If I play Overwatch, I know exactly what I'm dealing with. This character has THIS much health, THESE abilites and THIS effective a gun.
Without a dozen perks, upgrade nodes, etc. balance is much more streamlined. Nerfing one particular element doesnt necessarily just ream an entire spectrum of abilities and tools.
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Durandal,
2016-10-13, 10:05
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- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - squidnh3, 2016-10-13, 12:23
- +1 Id be completely behind this -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 13:06
- +1 Id be completely behind this -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 13:31
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 14:20
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:13
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 16:48
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:50
- Weird - someotherguy, 2016-10-13, 17:30
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:50
- Wait, the boxes did what? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 16:48
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 16:13
- You better have a Sidearm too though -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 14:20
- +1 Id be completely behind this -
TheeChaos,
2016-10-13, 13:31
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Harmanimus, 2016-10-13, 15:01
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slycrel,
2016-10-13, 15:13
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dogcow,
2016-10-13, 15:35
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Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 15:54
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - dogcow, 2016-10-14, 18:05
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Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 15:54
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dogcow,
2016-10-13, 15:35
- OT - Try Telesto - Blackt1g3r, 2016-10-13, 15:35
- I say revert all weapon changes back to 1.0. - Funkmon, 2016-10-13, 17:54
- Bungie needs a PvP Test Playlist - Kahzgul, 2016-10-13, 17:56
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red robber,
2016-10-13, 18:05
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Harmanimus,
2016-10-13, 18:57
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unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:08
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Ragashingo,
2016-10-13, 19:20
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unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:28
- There's also pellet spread randomness -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 21:45
- There's also pellet spread randomness - MacAddictXIV, 2016-10-14, 13:15
- There's also pellet spread randomness -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 21:45
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unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:28
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Harmanimus, 2016-10-13, 22:28
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Ragashingo,
2016-10-13, 19:20
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unoudid,
2016-10-13, 19:08
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Harmanimus,
2016-10-13, 18:57
- You know, my first ever post... -
someotherguy,
2016-10-13, 21:42
- Halo's Maps used more verticality than Destiny's do. -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-13, 21:59
- Halo also only had 1 sniper rifle -
Durandal,
2016-10-14, 14:10
- Or more accurately -
someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:33
- Or more accurately -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-14, 18:22
- Plus a central Heavy spawn, like in Trials - someotherguy, 2016-10-14, 18:47
- Or more accurately -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-14, 18:22
- Halo also only had 1 sniper rifle - Kahzgul, 2016-10-14, 18:24
- Or more accurately -
someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:33
- Halo also only had 1 sniper rifle -
Durandal,
2016-10-14, 14:10
- You know, my first ever post... -
squidnh3,
2016-10-14, 00:40
- Halo.... - Durandal, 2016-10-14, 14:21
- You know, my first ever post... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 16:01
- You know, my first ever post... -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-14, 17:42
- You know, my first ever post... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 19:15
- You know, my first ever post... - Harmanimus, 2016-10-14, 23:19
- You know, my first ever post... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 19:15
- You know, my first ever post... -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-14, 17:42
- Halo's Maps used more verticality than Destiny's do. -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-13, 21:59
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Mad_Stylus,
2016-10-14, 01:53
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dogcow,
2016-10-14, 13:01
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Cody Miller, 2016-10-14, 16:08
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Ragashingo, 2016-10-14, 14:49
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Cody Miller,
2016-10-14, 16:04
- Shotguns, Fusions, Snipers and Sidearms - Xenos, 2016-10-14, 16:11
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Ragashingo,
2016-10-14, 16:23
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someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:49
- Jugg-User Protip - Ragashingo, 2016-10-14, 18:05
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someotherguy,
2016-10-14, 17:49
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dogcow,
2016-10-14, 13:01