
they both restrict you in different ways (Destiny)
Titanfall has a handful of weapons, much like Halo, and has already had 3 balance patches.
The price you pay for variety is imbalance. Destiny has lots of variation in it's guns, and not surprisingly there are some bad ones, even in ideal categories like low impact pulses or high impact shotguns.
You will always have guns that are weaker, or abilities that are not as good. While I sympathize with the added level of frustration in Destiny, where you need a good archetype plus a good roll, and RNG plays havoc with that (I still have never had a PC+1 or Matador drop), that is in part what people want. Psychologically, people want weapon rarity, and thus the randomness. I would prefer to do away with it entirely, but I'm in a minority here. I hate COD's loot box drops for the same reason.
Titanfall restricts things by making you use unleveled guns until you level up. What is worse, spending a bunch of motes of light you get just for playing to fully max out a gun from the get go, or having to fight with one hand tied behind your back just to get a different sight?
Destiny's level requirements are effectively zero. Sparks of light, or just doing the main missions will get you to max level easily. Titanfall locks you out of classes until you finish a long PVP grind.
So Destiny's only real gate is gear score, and randomness, VS Titanfall's timed lockouts.
The part I don't agree with is your assessment of "playing with 1 hand tied behind your back" until you unlock new gear. The default starting gear in Titanfall 2 is just as good as any other gear in the game. You unlock more variety, not "better" stuff. I can take a default R-201 and Charge rifle into any match on any map and kick ass. In fact, I have been doing exactly that over on Xbox One, where I bought the game 5 weeks after launch and am competing against players who have already got everything unlocked. I don't feel like I'm at a disadvantage in the slightest, except for the minor and easy to unlock perks like having my weapon ready slightly faster.
Plus, if there is a gun in Titanfall 2 that you really want to use, you can unlock it at any time with in-game credits, bypassing the entire level-up climb.
Complete thread:
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-06, 21:16
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 21:38
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-06, 21:46
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 22:03
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots - Kahzgul, 2016-12-06, 22:05
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 22:03
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-06, 21:46
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-06, 22:13
- Try Hawken... - Korny, 2016-12-06, 22:22
- I just jumped back in as well. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-06, 23:13
- I just jumped back in as well. -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-06, 23:39
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 03:12
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 04:24
- Lag - Blackt1g3r, 2016-12-07, 16:22
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 08:59
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 11:54
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2016-12-07, 13:15
- How dare you actually watch the video.
- Funkmon, 2016-12-07, 14:53
- LOL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-12-07, 15:01
- LOL
- Yep. My mistake. -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:09
- Ah, no worries!
- kidtsunami, 2016-12-07, 20:16
- Ah, no worries!
- How dare you actually watch the video.
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2016-12-07, 13:15
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again - dogcow, 2016-12-07, 14:13
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Claude Errera,
2016-12-07, 16:01
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 16:58
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 11:54
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 04:24
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 03:12
- I just jumped back in as well. - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 13:59
- I just jumped back in as well. -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-06, 23:39
- Destiny is slow and/or deliberate? -
someotherguy,
2016-12-07, 16:24
- Destiny is slow and/or deliberate? - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-12-07, 16:33
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-06, 22:26
- So very, very true. - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 09:01
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 13:45
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 15:20
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:02
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 17:54
- One thing I didn't see commented upon - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 18:37
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 17:54
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:02
- One thing I didn't see commented upon - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:29
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 15:20
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 01:13
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 09:02
- That's Blink working as intended...
- Ragashingo, 2016-12-07, 11:59
- That's Blink working as intended... - dogcow, 2016-12-07, 14:17
- That's Blink working as intended... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 14:19
- That's Blink working as intended... -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:13
- Apparently you weren't running the Memory of Jolder artifact -
unoudid,
2016-12-07, 15:48
- In 2015? Indeed I was not. :)
- Ragashingo, 2016-12-07, 16:44
- git time travel gud bruh
- unoudid, 2016-12-07, 16:45
- git time travel gud bruh
- In 2015? Indeed I was not. :)
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:04
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
stabbim,
2016-12-07, 18:38
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 18:42
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag - stabbim, 2016-12-07, 19:03
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:28
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 18:42
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
stabbim,
2016-12-07, 18:38
- Apparently you weren't running the Memory of Jolder artifact -
unoudid,
2016-12-07, 15:48
- That's Blink working as intended... -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:13
- That's Blink working as intended...
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 09:02
- This is all flavor of the month stuff. -
Durandal,
2016-12-07, 01:44
- The grass is always greener
- Pyromancy, 2016-12-07, 02:09
- I fully disagree -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 09:08
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Durandal,
2016-12-07, 13:58
- they both restrict you in different ways -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 14:08
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 16:20
- they both restrict you in different ways - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 17:21
- they both restrict you in different ways - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:14
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 16:20
- they both restrict you in different ways -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 14:27
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:43
- they both restrict you in different ways - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-12-07, 16:50
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 16:25
- they both restrict you in different ways -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 16:57
- they both restrict you in different ways - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:23
- they both restrict you in different ways - Korny, 2016-12-07, 22:38
- they both restrict you in different ways -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 16:57
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:43
- they both restrict you in different ways -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 14:08
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Durandal,
2016-12-07, 13:58
- The grass is always greener
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 14:11
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:28
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 20:17
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 21:12
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-08, 12:24
- This is my favorite post of yours
- kidtsunami, 2016-12-08, 14:01
- Thanks :) -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-09, 17:17
- Thanks :) -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-10, 14:12
- Well shoot, thanks again :)
- Kahzgul, 2016-12-10, 16:28
- Well shoot, thanks again :)
- Have you posted about mana before? -
someotherguy,
2016-12-10, 16:33
- Have you posted about mana before? - Cody Miller, 2016-12-10, 17:27
- Thanks :) -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-10, 14:12
- Thanks :) -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-09, 17:17
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - Cody Miller, 2016-12-10, 17:01
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - Korny, 2016-12-07, 21:14
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 21:12
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 20:17
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:28
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
stabbim,
2016-12-07, 18:57
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 21:15
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 21:38