
they both restrict you in different ways (Destiny)
I agree with this assessment. In fact, I'll argue it's even worse that that.
Go back to Titanfall 1. The default Assault Rifle that you start with at level 1 is, by far, the best weapon in the game. There is no question whatsoever about that. Add a silencer and scope and you're deadly at every range (hip-fire accuracy was tops in close range), high ammo capacity, quick reload, snappy handling. So why even have the other guns? They were all specialized for specific roles that they excelled in. SMG for run and gun, but you sacrifice accuracy and range. LMG for suppressive fire, sniper for sniping, and so forth. If you wanted to play a specific, dedicated role, those were better guns for those roles than the jack of all trades AR you started with. Even so, why would you do that? Well, if you wanted to regenerate (prestige, basically), you had to reach certain levels of mastery with each gun - so there you have it. The extra guns were essentially challenge modes.
Now let's look at Titanfall 2. The guns are far more effective, generally, than in TF1. The "challenge mode" aspect is now really relegated to specific oddball and gimmick weapons like - as you called it - the softball. And the result is that weapons within the same class all feel very, very similar. Sure, the Hemlock is burst fire and the Devotion ramps up over time, but they still generally feel like the other guns in their category. There isn't a clear winner. So you're really talking about 4 or 5 categories of weapon when it comes to specific playstyle, and then small tweaks within those categories. Anti-Titan weapons are all unique and very different, but also are task-specific for killing titans, so they aren't as important to the overall gunplay discussion. Generally in TF2 you can play with any gun in a given category and it'll be well suited to that role.
If that were the whole game, it would be kind of boring, but because you mix that twitch shooter play with the strategy of the titan play, the game paces out very, very well. Which reminds me: Every titan feels and plays completely differently. They are an additional layer of weapon choice and complexity (class, really) and they deliver a feel that Destiny and CoD's classes also deliver, while retaining the general play of "all pilots are basically the same."
Complete thread:
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-06, 21:16
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 21:38
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-06, 21:46
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 22:03
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots - Kahzgul, 2016-12-06, 22:05
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 22:03
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-06, 21:46
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-06, 22:13
- Try Hawken... - Korny, 2016-12-06, 22:22
- I just jumped back in as well. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-06, 23:13
- I just jumped back in as well. -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-06, 23:39
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 03:12
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 04:24
- Lag - Blackt1g3r, 2016-12-07, 16:22
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 08:59
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 11:54
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2016-12-07, 13:15
- How dare you actually watch the video.
- Funkmon, 2016-12-07, 14:53
- LOL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-12-07, 15:01
- LOL
- Yep. My mistake. -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:09
- Ah, no worries!
- kidtsunami, 2016-12-07, 20:16
- Ah, no worries!
- How dare you actually watch the video.
- What? -
kidtsunami,
2016-12-07, 13:15
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again - dogcow, 2016-12-07, 14:13
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Claude Errera,
2016-12-07, 16:01
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 16:58
- I've posted proof, but hey - here it is again -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 11:54
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 04:24
- Never trust someone who only has nice/bad things to say... -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 03:12
- I just jumped back in as well. - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 13:59
- I just jumped back in as well. -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-06, 23:39
- Destiny is slow and/or deliberate? -
someotherguy,
2016-12-07, 16:24
- Destiny is slow and/or deliberate? - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-12-07, 16:33
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-06, 22:26
- So very, very true. - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 09:01
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 13:45
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 15:20
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:02
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 17:54
- One thing I didn't see commented upon - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 18:37
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 17:54
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:02
- One thing I didn't see commented upon - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:29
- One thing I didn't see commented upon -
MacGyver10,
2016-12-07, 15:20
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 01:13
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 09:02
- That's Blink working as intended...
- Ragashingo, 2016-12-07, 11:59
- That's Blink working as intended... - dogcow, 2016-12-07, 14:17
- That's Blink working as intended... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 14:19
- That's Blink working as intended... -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:13
- Apparently you weren't running the Memory of Jolder artifact -
unoudid,
2016-12-07, 15:48
- In 2015? Indeed I was not. :)
- Ragashingo, 2016-12-07, 16:44
- git time travel gud bruh
- unoudid, 2016-12-07, 16:45
- git time travel gud bruh
- In 2015? Indeed I was not. :)
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:04
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
stabbim,
2016-12-07, 18:38
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 18:42
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag - stabbim, 2016-12-07, 19:03
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:28
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 18:42
- This is the entire point of my post, Rag -
stabbim,
2016-12-07, 18:38
- Apparently you weren't running the Memory of Jolder artifact -
unoudid,
2016-12-07, 15:48
- That's Blink working as intended... -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:13
- That's Blink working as intended...
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 09:02
- This is all flavor of the month stuff. -
Durandal,
2016-12-07, 01:44
- The grass is always greener
- Pyromancy, 2016-12-07, 02:09
- I fully disagree -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 09:08
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Durandal,
2016-12-07, 13:58
- they both restrict you in different ways -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 14:08
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 16:20
- they both restrict you in different ways - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 17:21
- they both restrict you in different ways - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:14
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 16:20
- they both restrict you in different ways -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 14:27
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:43
- they both restrict you in different ways - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-12-07, 16:50
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Korny,
2016-12-07, 16:25
- they both restrict you in different ways -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 16:57
- they both restrict you in different ways - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-07, 20:23
- they both restrict you in different ways - Korny, 2016-12-07, 22:38
- they both restrict you in different ways -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-12-07, 16:57
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Ragashingo,
2016-12-07, 15:43
- they both restrict you in different ways -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 14:08
- they both restrict you in different ways -
Durandal,
2016-12-07, 13:58
- The grass is always greener
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 14:11
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:28
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 20:17
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 21:12
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-12-08, 12:24
- This is my favorite post of yours
- kidtsunami, 2016-12-08, 14:01
- Thanks :) -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-09, 17:17
- Thanks :) -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-10, 14:12
- Well shoot, thanks again :)
- Kahzgul, 2016-12-10, 16:28
- Well shoot, thanks again :)
- Have you posted about mana before? -
someotherguy,
2016-12-10, 16:33
- Have you posted about mana before? - Cody Miller, 2016-12-10, 17:27
- Thanks :) -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-10, 14:12
- Thanks :) -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-09, 17:17
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - Cody Miller, 2016-12-10, 17:01
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - Korny, 2016-12-07, 21:14
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 21:12
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-12-07, 20:17
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
Kahzgul,
2016-12-07, 17:28
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed -
stabbim,
2016-12-07, 18:57
- More Titanfall > Destiny PvP Stuff I Noticed - Kahzgul, 2016-12-07, 21:15
- Minor anecdote on "through wall" shots -
ZackDark,
2016-12-06, 21:38