Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi (Destiny)
I just find it hard to believe that Bungie intended to alter the Lorentz transform as part of their rules for the universe. I can buy space magic and time travel, but this seems… oddly specific.
Well, actually, brother,
That's the lovely thing about making up a consistent set of rules for your setting.
You don't have to consciously and intentionally catalogue and explain every facet of the setting's rules, as a whole model. You certainly can, but you don't need to.
All you need to do, is work out the rules that you want, and then portray them consistently with each other. Then, from that, all the little subrules and implications can be filled in by people who care about them. "But isn't that just having your fans make excuses for the work?" It's actually not, because if the system is consistent, then these necessarily little implications are part of the system, even if the authors never thought about them at all.
So, we see that we can see Light, but the we here is the people playing the game. This may be artistic license, as demonstrated by the size of the Traveler, or it may be a thing that people in the universe could have seen.
But it might be that you can see Light, even as it moves faster than light. There are a lot of potential reasons for that. All Bungie would have to do is name one of them, and then things like how that explanation interacts with the Lorentz transform can be deduced simply from the explanation.
The shorter, clearer version:
Destiny is a setting that is, to some extent, like reality, except where noted.
When we see something that's different from reality, we can take that to be true, and then from there work out what it means for all the physics nitty gritty.
Nobody has to explicitly think about all that nitty gritty to do this; they just have to portray the system consistently and completely, which they can do, even if they don't know a certain piece of nitty gritty that's affected by the system, since the system supersedes that nitty gritty.
Does that make sense?
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- Curse of Osiris - 1st live stream -
CougRon,
2017-11-15, 14:22
- Curse of Osiris - 1st live stream -
MacGyver10,
2017-11-15, 14:25
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 14:32
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... -
Schedonnardus,
2017-11-15, 14:43
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... -
bluerunner,
2017-11-15, 14:51
- +1 million - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 14:57
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... - breitzen, 2017-11-16, 09:19
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... -
bluerunner,
2017-11-15, 14:51
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... -
Schedonnardus,
2017-11-15, 14:43
- Curse of Osiris - 1st live stream -
dogcow,
2017-11-15, 14:41
- Raid Lairs = New Mini Raids - Ragashingo, 2017-11-15, 15:10
- Not much was revealed that we didn't know... -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 14:32
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 14:34
- +100 -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 14:47
- +100 - Schedonnardus, 2017-11-15, 14:55
- #cheapLEYwasright -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-15, 16:18
- #cheapLEYwasright -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 23:30
- #cheapLEYwasright - cheapLEY, 2017-11-16, 07:58
- #cheapLEYwasright - Harmanimus, 2017-11-16, 09:50
- #cheapLEYwasright - cheapLEY, 2017-11-16, 15:02
- Finished. -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-17, 17:27
- Finished. - Korny, 2017-11-19, 14:09
- #cheapLEYwasright -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 23:30
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 14:56
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 15:05
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 16:14
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-15, 16:36
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 18:58
- Managing expectations. -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-15, 19:26
- Managing expectations. -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 14:35
- Managing expectations. -
Xenos,
2017-11-16, 15:04
- Managing expectations. - Ragashingo, 2017-11-16, 15:28
- Managing expectations. - Kahzgul, 2017-11-16, 17:02
- Managing expectations. -
Xenos,
2017-11-16, 15:04
- Managing expectations. -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 14:35
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-15, 19:31
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 21:05
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-16, 07:06
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Kahzgul, 2017-11-16, 10:59
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-16, 07:06
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 21:05
- Managing expectations. -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-15, 19:26
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 18:58
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 16:51
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-15, 16:36
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Cody Miller, 2017-11-15, 16:25
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 16:14
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Ragashingo, 2017-11-15, 15:19
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Xenos, 2017-11-15, 15:45
- your off your game Cody - electricpirate, 2017-11-15, 19:18
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Kermit, 2017-11-16, 07:04
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 15:05
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-15, 15:16
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 15:38
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-15, 18:23
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 19:17
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-15, 19:45
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 21:00
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 10:05
- +1000 - Claude Errera, 2017-11-16, 10:41
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 10:53
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Xenos,
2017-11-16, 11:37
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-16, 11:40
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it - Xenos, 2017-11-16, 11:44
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it - Kermit, 2017-11-16, 12:20
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 12:23
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Xenos,
2017-11-16, 12:35
- Wait, what? - RaichuKFM, 2017-11-16, 13:22
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Xenos,
2017-11-16, 12:35
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-16, 11:40
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word and not describing it -
Xenos,
2017-11-16, 11:37
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 10:05
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 21:00
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-15, 19:45
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 19:17
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-15, 18:23
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-15, 15:38
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something -
electricpirate,
2017-11-15, 19:13
- Raid Lairs - I hate inventing a word to describe something - Kahzgul, 2017-11-15, 20:18
- +100 -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 14:47
- Let's talk about the first half of the stream - Kahzgul, 2017-11-15, 21:19
- Looks neat! - cheapLEY, 2017-11-16, 08:24
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
breitzen,
2017-11-16, 08:42
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
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2017-11-16, 11:01
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
breitzen,
2017-11-16, 11:35
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! - Cody Miller, 2017-11-16, 11:42
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 12:01
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
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2017-11-16, 12:06
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
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2017-11-16, 12:18
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 12:24
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 12:35
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 12:52
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 12:59
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
marmot 1333,
2017-11-16, 13:08
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi - breitzen, 2017-11-16, 13:23
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-16, 13:56
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-16, 14:26
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-16, 14:31
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi - Ragashingo, 2017-11-16, 14:39
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-16, 15:04
- +1 - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-16, 16:33
- You mean besides all the obvious evidence of FTL comms? - ZackDark, 2017-11-16, 15:33
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-16, 16:32
- I like this one. Good call - ZackDark, 2017-11-16, 16:43
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 16:56
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-17, 12:49
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-20, 11:32
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-20, 11:44
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-20, 13:37
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-20, 13:47
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-20, 15:32
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-20, 22:15
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-21, 01:40
- Oh, hey, you gave me an idea - ZackDark, 2017-11-21, 05:04
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-21, 01:40
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-21, 10:31
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... - Kahzgul, 2017-11-21, 10:35
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-20, 22:15
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-20, 15:32
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-20, 13:47
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-20, 13:37
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-20, 11:44
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-20, 11:32
- What the heck guys!? Obviously it's... -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-17, 12:49
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-16, 14:31
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-16, 14:26
- Destiny never claimed to be hard sci-fi -
marmot 1333,
2017-11-16, 13:08
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 12:59
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 12:52
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 12:35
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-16, 15:18
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-17, 12:04
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-17, 21:10
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-18, 10:05
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! - Kahzgul, 2017-11-18, 17:12
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-18, 10:05
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-17, 21:10
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-17, 12:04
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 12:24
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-16, 12:18
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
breitzen,
2017-11-16, 12:06
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Ragashingo,
2017-11-16, 14:35
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 17:01
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-16, 17:51
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
ZackDark,
2017-11-16, 21:10
- +1000000000000^100000000000000 - Kahzgul, 2017-11-16, 22:41
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
ZackDark,
2017-11-16, 21:10
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-16, 17:51
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 17:01
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
breitzen,
2017-11-16, 11:35
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! - Schedonnardus, 2017-11-16, 11:42
- Curse of Osiris is looking good! -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-16, 11:01
- Asking the real question here -
Up North 65,
2017-11-16, 18:51
- Asking the real question here - Kahzgul, 2017-11-16, 22:42
- Asking the real question here -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-17, 10:21
- Asking the real question here -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-17, 11:00
- Asking the real question here -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-17, 12:25
- Asking the real question here -
Up North 65,
2017-11-17, 12:45
- Asking the real question here -
Xenos,
2017-11-17, 12:58
- Asking the real question here - Ragashingo, 2017-11-17, 13:48
- Asking the real question here -
Xenos,
2017-11-17, 12:58
- Asking the real question here - Kahzgul, 2017-11-17, 21:07
- Asking the real question here -
Up North 65,
2017-11-17, 12:45
- Asking the real question here -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-17, 12:25
- Asking the real question here -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-17, 11:00
- Curse of Osiris - 1st live stream -
MacGyver10,
2017-11-15, 14:25