We, all of us, color the past with our present. (Destiny)

by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, March 22, 2018, 15:24 (2515 days ago) @ Claude Errera

The community we have now, the community that we had in the early days of D1... it's a different flavor. Now, it's far more "what have you done for me lately?" and less "I hated that, but I'll give you another chance."

There is a huge difference between not liking a game because you just don't dig it, and being upset that the developer is using designs and practices that are actively hostile to players. I know you don't see it this way, but for me when a developer adds 'frictions' into a game that's a direct attack on the sanctity of my time. When they make me grind, it's for their benefit not mine. When they make me visit Tess every time I level up, it's an assault on me.

If Destiny had been designed player first and simply suffered due to over ambition, I don't think people would be asking "what have you done for me lately?" they would be cheering Bungie on as they made the sequel.

This is why it's different. With investment systems, it becomes personal.