Loss Streak Changes (Destiny)

by EffortlessFury , Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:25 (2416 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

If Bungie wanted less penalty on loss, they should either eliminate the loss streak, or make losses take away fewer points, both. The thing that you want could have been done properly. So ok, the system penalizes losses less now, but it’s worse than it otherwise could be because it penalizes winning too.

You can drive a car across country now! You don’t have to spend 3 months in an ox cart! Why are you complaining? I don’t know, maybe because I could take a plane instead and be even better off.

Your system is analogous to flying across the country and taking more stops and then getting detained somewhere so it takes longer than the car ride would have. Everyone else is hopping in the car and beating the ox and the plane to the destination.

You falsely assume your proposal is more player-friendly than the new system.

Under current rules:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50, 50

LLLLWLLLLL = -260
LLLLLLLLLW = -435

Under new system:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 15, 10, 05, 05, 05, 05

LLLLWLLLLL = -85
LLLLLLLLLW = -55

Cody's flat-rate system:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20

LLLLWLLLLL = -160
LLLLLLLLLW = -160

You're demonstrating with extreme cases not average cases. While neither is admissible proof, extreme cases are not very representative of a systemic issue.

First of all, we don't know what values Bungie will settle on. That will have an impact on the end result.

Second, there still is an issue here. In your Santa analogy, the issue is that performing a bunch of bad deeds and then a bunch of good deeds looks better than performing a good deed then a bad deed. Since that metaphoric example sounds morally correct (lol), let's say bad deeds, good deeds, then bad deeds:

Under current rules:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50, 50

LLLLWWWWLLLL = -115
LLWLLWLLWLLW = -115

Under new system:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 15, 10, 05, 05, 05, 05

LLLLWWWWLLLL = 15
LLWLLWLLWLLW = -60

Cody's flat-rate system:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20

LLLLWWWWLLLL = -45
LLWLLWLLWLLW = -80

It's entirely subjective what's "better," but frankly it's a factual statement that a Win that interrupts a losing streak is less beneficial long term than not winning at all.