Loss Streak Changes (Destiny)

by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:44 (2416 days ago) @ EffortlessFury

It is never a negative to win a game.

Both Fury and have have detailed where a win absolutely hurts you:

No you haven't and this is silly- Every single person who plays the game will earn rank faster under their new mechanics, or, at worst, if they lose every other game, things will stay exactly the same. Notice how in EF's examples there was never a scenario in which having a losing streak rule made the outcome worse for anyone. All his scenarios assumed 50/50 win/losses. The current rules made a zero gain in rank the outcome of such a record. Under all other rules, the capacity to have a nonzero positive rank increased for the 50/50 scenario.

You also haven't addressed the fact that at any given moment, the incentive is there for you to win your next game. There is never a scenario in which losing is preferable, unless you knew the future and were guaranteed a certain number of wins and losses.

Yes, streaks are rewarded, but wins are never penalized. Wording matters. You're upset that had you seen the future, you could maximize the bonuses of a streak more effectively than if you won every other game. But you can't control that so it' a moot point.

Let's look at the nightmare scenario I think you're envisioning. Different outcomes for LLLLWLLLLL vs LLLLLLLLLW

Under current rules:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50, 50

LLLLWLLLLL = -260
LLLLLLLLLW = -435

Under new system:

Win += 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 50, 50
Loss -= 20, 15, 10, 05, 05, 05, 05

LLLLWLLLLL = -85
LLLLLLLLLW = -55

Look at that. Isn't it advantageous to win at the end rather than in the middle? Well, yes-ish. A win that breaks the streak is worse in the middle than at the end. But compare both of those scenarios to the numbers of the current system. As as player, the new system punishes you less across the board for losing. You losses are lessened and your gains are increased. Isn't this player-friendly?

Let me get this straight.

A streak breaking game is worth +/- 20 points...under the old system AND the new system. Yet, it seems Cody's fervent anger is solely over the streak breaking game. It was always worth 20 points and will still be worth 20 points.

It is over the impact the streak breaking game has on subsequent games. Breaking a loss streak with a win resets the loss streak, which means higher subsequent losses.

So following this logic, you would prefer to continue to lose, so you're not penalized AS MUCH. Even though before, you were being penalized 50 points in streak, but will now be only penalized 5 points in streak. You're afraid that if you win, then lose again, you will lose 20 points? This is the dumbest thing I've heard of.