Except... (Destiny)
Okay. Since it's difficult to argue a post filled with so many personal qualifications, I'll just go back to the original point.
I view pretty much all comments on the Internet as personal and subjective viewpoints put forth, so I'm not the guy to talk to if you want a lab report. :)
RC said:
Because while it shares certain elements, takes inspiration from them, it's also changed in the established Bungie style into something that doesn't easily fit into established boxes and stereotypes.
This is an assertion. "It is changed in the established Bungie style... doesn't easily fit into established boxes and stereotypes."I ask for evidence:
How do you know that? What have you seen? Because what we have seen can be described as "Bungie Borderlands" as one IGN article put it.
I don't think I'm out of bounds in making the Borderlands comparison. The only substantial difference we've seen between Destiny and BL is the "public event" mechanic, the appearance of which was so brief and the explanation of which so vague it's difficult to carve that notch into the tally.I'm not saying you're not allowed to have faith. I'm not saying Bungie should or shouldn't release X amount of info. But RC's post and my question were about facts. He made a claim. I asked for evidence.
I would say the evidence for RC's position is Bungie's past games, at least the first of each series and how they could have been grouped with similar games beforehand, but once played, were seen as revolutionary or evolutionary to their related genres. Halo CE, a long with others, expanded what FPS meant. Destiny could do the same, or create a bridge not yet crossed between different genres.
There's also the evidence of Bungie's comments and actions regarding their roll-out of Destiny. Which seem to say they believe the above might be true.
And then there's the plain lack of actual evidence any which way, because there is so much we don't know, and that is another reason I see no reason to label or define it, as that would just diminish the possible new experience as I described in my previous post. We simply don't know enough to talk about this stuff yet. I don't think, and I'm pretty sure Bungie doesn't think, that players should go into Destiny thinking it's a variation of 'x' game.
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kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 03:50
- I'd only caution that that's an expansion, not a new game -
kidtsunami,
2013-11-27, 04:01
- I'd only caution that that's an expansion, not a new game -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 05:46
- fair enough -
kidtsunami,
2013-11-27, 06:07
- fair enough - Xenos, 2013-11-27, 07:10
- fair enough - Durandal, 2013-11-27, 07:23
- fair enough -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 13:49
- fair enough - kidtsunami, 2013-11-28, 07:09
- fair enough -
kidtsunami,
2013-11-27, 06:07
- I'd only caution that that's an expansion, not a new game -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 05:46
- Except... -
RC,
2013-11-27, 07:17
- Except... -
Schooly D,
2013-11-27, 08:02
- Except... -
Leviathan,
2013-11-27, 08:25
- Except... -
Schooly D,
2013-11-27, 09:16
- Except... -
Leviathan,
2013-11-27, 10:41
- Except... -
Schooly D,
2013-11-27, 11:17
- Except... -
uberfoop,
2013-11-27, 11:24
- Hashtag "Classic Customs" - Schooly D, 2013-11-27, 11:43
- Except... - Leviathan, 2013-11-27, 12:02
- Except... -
uberfoop,
2013-11-27, 11:24
- Except... -
Schooly D,
2013-11-27, 11:17
- Except... -
Leviathan,
2013-11-27, 10:41
- Except... -
Schooly D,
2013-11-27, 09:16
- Except... - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-11-27, 14:36
- Except... -
RC,
2013-11-30, 04:49
- Except... - stabbim, 2013-12-02, 13:09
- Except... -
Leviathan,
2013-11-27, 08:25
- +7 - Leviathan, 2013-11-27, 08:09
- Except... - kapowaz, 2013-11-27, 13:53
- Except... -
Cody Miller,
2013-11-27, 14:05
- Except... -
kidtsunami,
2013-11-28, 10:24
- Fixed that for you :-D -
Xenos,
2013-11-28, 10:42
- thanks!!!!! - kidtsunami, 2013-11-28, 10:50
- Fixed that for you :-D -
Xenos,
2013-11-28, 10:42
- Except... -
kidtsunami,
2013-11-28, 10:24
- Except... -
Schooly D,
2013-11-27, 08:02
- Game mechanics and the community -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-27, 09:05
- Game mechanics and the community -
Cody Miller,
2013-11-27, 14:08
- Game mechanics and the community -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 14:56
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kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 15:17
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- It's a cold day in hell… -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 15:17
- Game mechanics and the community - kidtsunami, 2013-11-28, 07:06
- Game mechanics and the community -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 14:56
- Game mechanics and the community - kapowaz, 2013-11-27, 14:51
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Cody Miller,
2013-11-27, 14:08
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Spawn,
2013-11-27, 10:13
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ncsuDuncan,
2013-11-27, 11:23
- Aisha is awesome. - Kermit, 2013-11-27, 13:49
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DeeJ,
2013-11-27, 11:41
- Game mechanics and the community - breitzen, 2013-11-27, 12:39
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Cody Miller,
2013-11-27, 14:12
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Malagate,
2013-11-27, 16:21
- Game mechanics and the community -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 16:37
- Game mechanics and the community -
Malagate,
2013-11-27, 16:52
- Game mechanics and the community -
Cody Miller,
2013-11-27, 17:17
- Game mechanics and the community -
Malagate,
2013-11-27, 17:38
- Game mechanics and the community -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 17:58
- Game mechanics and the community - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-12-03, 14:47
- Game mechanics and the community -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 17:58
- Game mechanics and the community -
Malagate,
2013-11-27, 17:38
- Game mechanics and the community - kapowaz, 2013-11-27, 17:55
- Game mechanics and the community -
Cody Miller,
2013-11-27, 17:17
- Game mechanics and the community -
Malagate,
2013-11-27, 16:52
- Game mechanics and the community -
kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 16:37
- Shared World Shooter was pretty clear to my dad - kidtsunami, 2013-11-28, 07:15
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Malagate,
2013-11-27, 16:21
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kapowaz,
2013-11-27, 15:00
- Game mechanics and the community - electricpirate, 2013-11-28, 19:58
- The natives are getting restless -
Kermit,
2013-11-27, 18:58
- Hear hear! - Xenos, 2013-11-27, 20:10
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-28, 02:41
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-28, 11:43
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-28, 16:00
- The natives are getting restless -
Xenos,
2013-11-28, 20:52
- Well said - marmot 1333, 2013-11-28, 21:40
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-29, 11:16
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-29, 17:08
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-29, 18:05
- The natives are getting restless -
Xenos,
2013-11-29, 19:26
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-30, 02:47
- The natives are getting restless - uberfoop, 2013-11-30, 10:45
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-30, 02:47
- The natives are getting restless -
Kermit,
2013-11-30, 01:29
- The natives are getting restless - uberfoop, 2013-11-30, 10:42
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-30, 02:30
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-30, 10:22
- ^Like - RC, 2013-11-30, 16:26
- The natives are getting restless - Cody Miller, 2013-11-30, 16:12
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-30, 10:22
- The natives are getting restless -
Xenos,
2013-11-29, 19:26
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-29, 18:05
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-29, 17:08
- The natives are getting restless -
Xenos,
2013-11-28, 20:52
- The natives are getting restless -
kapowaz,
2013-11-28, 16:00
- The natives are getting restless -
Kermit,
2013-11-29, 13:39
- The natives are getting restless - kapowaz, 2013-11-29, 17:13
- The natives are getting restless -
Claude Errera,
2013-11-28, 11:43
- I'd only caution that that's an expansion, not a new game -
kidtsunami,
2013-11-27, 04:01