The natives are getting restless (Destiny)

by kapowaz, Thursday, November 28, 2013, 16:00 (4014 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Unless I'm reading badly, your detailed breakdown boils down to 'engaging the hardcore sooner builds buzz for the final product, and this is important because the type of game Destiny strives to be requires a large quantity of initial players if it's to excel and grow.'

Yeah, you're reading badly. That's one reason (actually not the reason I was giving) but not the only, and not even necessarily the most important.

In a nutshell:

MMO mechanics need scrutinising under the watchful gaze of min-maxers. This is better if done in public rather than through reverse-engineering in secret (exploits that are publicly spotted get fixed; in private they might just be privately exploited for a while).

Should this happen before the beta starts? Not necessarily. But it shouldn't happen much later than that, in my opinion.

The other matter was one of building loyalty etc. Now I've not seen the figures for Destiny being a pre-order record breaker but anecdotally speaking I've felt like it's not that much in the gamer public consciousness. I went to Eurogamer Expo with some gamer friends and commented that I hoped Destiny would be on show. They were all like 'what's that?'. All three of them used to be in a Halo clan with me. Once inside I saw Bungie did have a pretty minor presence, but it had almost nobody paying it heed. I saw vastly bigger queues for games like Dark Souls 2 or any Nintendo title than people around the otherwise deserted Destiny stand. Maybe this 'shared world shooter' isn't so readily understood as people on this forum think? I don't know. Either way, I think there's certainly room for a lot more awareness-building and excitement-generating. Don't mistake your own enthusiasm as universal.

This is the part most of us arguing with you disagree isn't happening.

It confuses me why this is an 'argument' in the first place. What is it about the suggestions I made that makes them so abhorrent to people on this forum that rather than provoking a reaction like, hey yeah, that could be really insightful and interesting! people get their back up and start defending Bungie's current course of action as if they're above criticism or suggestions for improvement? It's a pretty common theme on this forum that criticism is met with Fisking. Can I ask that you try and see it from somebody else's perspective for once?