Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) (Destiny)
It's a good theory but he missed some stuff. Specifically, stuff about the Exos. In Ghost Fragment: Exo we have an Exo trying to reason with us about his existence. That both we and he are machines, one biological and one super high tech / mechanical. But then he asks the question:
Why does a war machine have emotions? Why should a war machine have awareness? These are not useful traits on the battlefield. Don't flatter yourself. They are not useful. So why should the Exo mind mimic the human architecture so closely?
and concludes:
I think someone wanted to live forever.
That doesn't really fit with the story of the Ishtar scientists. At least not yet...
I am however fully on board with the Exo Stranger being one of the scientists. Note in her card:
Stories of an Exo who walks in the Darkness without a Ghost have long haunted the Tower. Legends say this anomaly dissolves in and out of the world, intangible and elusive, as if she is a visitor from somewhere beyond.
Some believe she's the last of an ancient Exo squadron, fighting a long-forgotten war. Others dismiss her as a hallucination caused by exposure to Vex technology. But there are those who maintain that her intervention saved their lives - or averted unspeakable catastrophes
That's a nice dovetailing of the stories there.
A couple of side notes:
1. Their copies were rescued from a Vex simulation and now they've all voted to go explore in the Vex network. Surely that ends very badly for most of them, right?! That said, the Ishtar Archive had "mappings of a Vex underworld. A place called the Vault of Glass." Maybe now we can guess where those mappings came from?
2. Is it just me, or does connecting a Warmind to a Vex mind, even to rescue some trapped Humans, sound like a really really bad idea? It's interesting that our Warminds were more powerful than a Vex would could perfectly simulate 227 realities at once, but I can't imagine that everything went as perfectly with the rescue and neural firewalling as we're led to believe here. I wonder which Warmind it was that they contacted...
Complete thread:
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-11, 11:59
- WOW: my thoughts - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-11, 12:25
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-06-11, 12:34
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) -
yakaman,
2015-06-11, 13:09
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) - General Battuta, 2015-06-11, 21:26
- You are not Dr. Shim -
Durandal,
2015-06-11, 13:46
- What if you are the traveler? - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-11, 13:57
- You are not Dr. Shim - Ragashingo, 2015-06-11, 14:11
- You are not Dr. Shim - Cody Miller, 2015-06-11, 14:33
- Or are you? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-11, 15:20
- Occam's Electric Toothbrush -
someotherguy,
2015-06-11, 15:27
- Post of the day :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-11, 15:28
- Or are you? -
Durandal,
2015-06-11, 15:57
- Not how security works -
Earendil,
2015-06-11, 16:21
- Not how security works -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 18:20
- Not how security works -
Earendil,
2015-06-12, 18:31
- Not how security works -
Xenos,
2015-06-13, 20:28
- Not how security works -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-13, 20:49
- Not how security works - Xenos, 2015-06-13, 22:25
- Not how security works -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-13, 20:49
- Not how security works -
Xenos,
2015-06-13, 20:28
- Not how security works -
Earendil,
2015-06-12, 18:31
- Not how security works - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-13, 17:39
- Not how security works -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 18:20
- Not how security works -
Earendil,
2015-06-11, 16:21
- Occam's Electric Toothbrush -
someotherguy,
2015-06-11, 15:27
- Occam's Razor is too simply here - Earendil, 2015-06-11, 15:28
- We're missing the obvious! -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-11, 15:29
- Mind blown... Again! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-11, 15:30
- Ha! This almost made it into my Electric Toothbrush post. - someotherguy, 2015-06-11, 15:33
- We're missing the obvious! -
dogcow,
2015-06-11, 16:17
- We're missing the obvious! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-11, 16:49
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-11, 14:07
- This is why they'd have emotion - Earendil, 2015-06-11, 15:13
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) - dogcow, 2015-06-11, 14:35
- I had the exact same thoughts re: "Welcome Doctor Shim" - someotherguy, 2015-06-11, 15:17
- Dear Bungie/Activision -
red robber,
2015-06-11, 16:18
- Not written by Greg Bear -
Durandal,
2015-06-11, 16:46
- O_o -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-11, 16:48
- I loved them all. - red robber, 2015-06-11, 16:50
- huh... - electricpirate, 2015-06-11, 16:53
- Couldn't get through the second one -
Monochron,
2015-06-11, 20:43
- Couldn't get through the second one -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-11, 21:00
- He removed all agency -
Durandal,
2015-06-12, 09:57
- I think that was intentional *mild spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-12, 13:28
- He removed all agency -
Durandal,
2015-06-12, 09:57
- Couldn't get through the second one -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 13:41
- Couldn't get through the second one - Ragashingo, 2015-06-12, 13:49
- Couldn't get through the second one - Monochron, 2015-06-12, 15:49
- Couldn't get through the second one -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-11, 21:00
- +1 - Oholiab, 2015-06-11, 17:45
- O_o -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-11, 16:48
- Dear Destiny stop hiding great stories in terrible card form -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-11, 17:38
- +1 again - Oholiab, 2015-06-11, 17:45
- The form's bad, but the writing's great. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-11, 18:38
- The form is fine. -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 13:40
- No it isn't -
Avateur,
2015-06-12, 16:52
- No it isn't - Kermit, 2015-06-12, 18:15
- No it isn't -
Avateur,
2015-06-12, 16:52
- The form is fine. -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 13:40
- One million times this. - Kahzgul, 2015-06-11, 23:34
- Not written by Greg Bear -
Durandal,
2015-06-11, 16:46
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-11, 17:31
- I know I'm a broken record... -
car15,
2015-06-11, 19:25
- No.... -
Earendil,
2015-06-11, 19:27
- No.... -
stabbim,
2015-06-11, 19:45
- No.... -
car15,
2015-06-11, 20:11
- No.... - stabbim, 2015-06-11, 20:31
- No.... -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-11, 20:26
- No.... - stabbim, 2015-06-11, 20:38
- No.... -
Earendil,
2015-06-11, 21:55
- Read it.... -
red robber,
2015-06-11, 23:09
- Read it.... -
Earendil,
2015-06-12, 16:00
- Read it.... - iconicbanana, 2015-06-12, 16:03
- Read it.... - red robber, 2015-06-12, 16:11
- Read it.... -
Earendil,
2015-06-12, 16:00
- Read it.... -
red robber,
2015-06-11, 23:09
- No.... -
car15,
2015-06-11, 20:11
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
Schedonnardus,
2015-06-12, 11:16
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 13:02
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
stabbim,
2015-06-12, 13:05
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-12, 13:16
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
dogcow,
2015-06-12, 13:25
- Right. They'd get points but they'd still just click through -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-12, 13:46
- Right. They'd get points but they'd still just click through -
stabbim,
2015-06-12, 13:52
- Bonus Grimoire Score -
dogcow,
2015-06-12, 13:55
- Bonus Grimoire Score - Ragashingo, 2015-06-12, 14:14
- Bonus Grimoire Score -
dogcow,
2015-06-12, 13:55
- Right. They'd get points but they'd still just click through -
stabbim,
2015-06-12, 13:52
- Right. They'd get points but they'd still just click through -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-12, 13:46
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
stabbim,
2015-06-12, 13:51
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa - Ragashingo, 2015-06-12, 14:40
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa - Earendil, 2015-06-12, 15:51
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
dogcow,
2015-06-12, 13:25
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-12, 13:16
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
stabbim,
2015-06-12, 13:05
- Problem: Game supplements the Grimoire, not vice-versa -
Kermit,
2015-06-12, 13:02
- No.... -
stabbim,
2015-06-11, 19:45
- I mostly agree. - dogcow, 2015-06-11, 19:56
- No.... -
Earendil,
2015-06-11, 19:27
- Mind -> BLOWN | The nature of the Exo (via reddit) - slycrel, 2015-06-13, 18:00