
Potential solution (Destiny)
Hopefully this is something that Bungie can add in the future :)
Let's assume Bungie is going to depreciate current weapons somehow in the crucible.
The best thing from here on out I think, is to rethink about how perks make guns more effective. No perk should straight up make the gun directly more effective. No perks that increase damage. No perks that increase range or stability. No perks that increase aim assist. Etc.
Perks should indirectly make guns more effective. Perks such as Battle Runner, Shoot to Loot, Up close and Personal, and Replenish are the kinds of things I'm talking about. Even Icarus is too much of a direct effect. They don't directly make the weapon any better, but can be used situationally to improve your performance in other ways. In short, the perks actually effect your playstyle, not the guns killing power. To me this is far more interesting.
Now. Getting every current gun out of the hands of everyone in the Crucible is going to be tough since attack power doesn't matter, and no matter how much Bungie nerfs hammer forged, it's still a straight up effectiveness perk, and those weapons are out there.
It's just bad perk design from the get go. I'm not going to say that I warned them and saw it first, because I didn't. Maybe the best thing is to simply disallow year one weapons in Crucible when in year two playlists. That has problems of its own, but the longer Bungie waits, the worse it'll be. They should pull the trigger now.
Complete thread:
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. -
dogcow,
2015-07-24, 15:16
- Agree -
CyberKN,
2015-07-24, 15:24
- Happened to Queen auto rifle too. - Funkmon, 2015-07-24, 15:51
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. - Kermit, 2015-07-24, 15:28
- Big feature! No two guns are ever the same! -
Funkmon,
2015-07-24, 15:48
- Only if you have the resources to reroll for it... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-24, 16:01
- Only if you have the resources to reroll for it... -
Funkmon,
2015-07-24, 16:33
- I'd be totally fine with that. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-24, 17:56
- We will have to disagree.
- Funkmon, 2015-07-24, 19:30
- We will have to disagree.
- I'd be totally fine with that. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-24, 17:56
- Only if you have the resources to reroll for it... -
Funkmon,
2015-07-24, 16:33
- Only if you have the resources to reroll for it... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-24, 16:01
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-24, 15:51
- Agreed!! - TheeChaos, 2015-07-24, 16:06
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. -
slycrel,
2015-07-24, 15:59
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. - stabbim, 2015-07-24, 16:14
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-24, 16:19
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
Vortech,
2015-07-24, 16:24
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
cheapLEY,
2015-07-24, 16:32
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
Funkmon,
2015-07-24, 16:37
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
cheapLEY,
2015-07-24, 16:42
- I agree. Must invest to try it out is unhappy. -
dogcow,
2015-07-24, 16:49
- I agree. Must invest to try it out is unhappy. - Cody Miller, 2015-07-24, 16:50
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction - Funkmon, 2015-07-24, 17:17
- I agree. Must invest to try it out is unhappy. -
dogcow,
2015-07-24, 16:49
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
cheapLEY,
2015-07-24, 16:42
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
Funkmon,
2015-07-24, 16:37
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
cheapLEY,
2015-07-24, 16:32
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. - narcogen, 2015-07-26, 03:07
- not much, just re-rolling my Dyson for perfect suction -
Vortech,
2015-07-24, 16:24
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. -
dogcow,
2015-07-24, 16:43
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. - Cody Miller, 2015-07-24, 16:48
- Mini Rant: Big Problem! No two guns are ever the same. - slycrel, 2015-07-24, 17:36
- I agree completely! - naturl selexion, 2015-07-24, 21:26
- Disagree -
someotherguy,
2015-07-25, 00:12
- Disagree -
dogcow,
2015-07-25, 01:28
- Disagree -
someotherguy,
2015-07-25, 10:19
- Disagree -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-25, 15:16
- Disagree -
Claude Errera,
2015-07-25, 15:25
- Disagree - Xenos, 2015-07-25, 15:29
- Disagree -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-25, 15:31
- Disagree -
Claude Errera,
2015-07-25, 15:38
- Potential solution -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-25, 16:01
- Potential solution -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-25, 17:03
- Potential solution -
Ragashingo,
2015-07-25, 17:53
- Potential solution - dogcow, 2015-07-26, 20:32
- Potential solution -
Ragashingo,
2015-07-25, 17:53
- Potential solution -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-25, 17:03
- Potential solution -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-25, 16:01
- Disagree - someotherguy, 2015-07-26, 09:54
- Disagree -
Claude Errera,
2015-07-25, 15:38
- This . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-07-26, 02:09
- Disagree -
someotherguy,
2015-07-26, 09:50
- Not possible right now -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-26, 11:16
- Not true... -
Korny,
2015-07-26, 12:18
- Yes, it is true :) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-26, 12:27
- Different Perks, same end result - someotherguy, 2015-07-26, 13:16
- Yes, it is true :) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-26, 12:27
- It definitely is - someotherguy, 2015-07-26, 13:08
- Not true... -
Korny,
2015-07-26, 12:18
- Not possible right now -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-26, 11:16
- Disagree -
Claude Errera,
2015-07-25, 15:25
- Disagree -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-25, 15:16
- Disagree -
Mid7night,
2015-07-25, 17:48
- Disagree - someotherguy, 2015-07-26, 10:00
- Disagree -
someotherguy,
2015-07-25, 10:19
- Disagree -
dogcow,
2015-07-25, 01:28
- Agree -
CyberKN,
2015-07-24, 15:24