Is the Raid too hard? (Destiny)

by red robber , Crawfish Country, Tuesday, September 29, 2015, 04:09 (3437 days ago) @ Cody Miller

I wonder if it would be better to have more smaller raids with more frequency, than wait for a single large Raid as we did with going from TDB to King's Fall. I don't think Prison of Elders was a great substitute for a Raid despite having raid like mechanics. Skolas felt more like lesson in tedious bullet sponge boss time.

If we could get a Raid for every new expansion that was closer to 8-10 hours long for an average group on the first go round on normal, I think I would prefer that over waiting 9ish months for one big one. I would also prefer a smaller time commitment as well. I think this would make it easier for everyone to go in blind and finish with the same team, which is something many of us desire.

Having said that, I'm totally happy with what we have. This raid is amazing in so many ways. It looks great, has crazy puzzles, is begging to be explored, tricky bosses that require strat and teamwork, and it will be great for those who desire to perfect techniques.

I'm fine with a long raid… so long as the way to progress towards 310 doesn't involve getting lucky on drops from the raid. That might turn out to be the case, I don't know. Right now it looks like you'll only be able to get 310 items from 4 sources:

1. Exotic Engrams
2. Special Quests
3. Raid drops (hard mode hopefully is 310 always)
4. Trials of Osiris?

We are back to the problem of not being able to hit max level unless you get raid boot drops. Worse now since you'd need THREE to infuse your good boots with heavy ammo perks up to 310.

Everything would be so much better if infusion was 100%. Why it's 80% is beyond me. Even at 100% it'd still take longer than in HoW.

I'm hoping the new light system makes hitting 310 not necessary, even for the hard mode raid.

I get what you are saying, and I submit that having a better light level does somewhat affect the difficulty of the raid, but what I'm addressing here is cheapLEY's comment about the initial length of the Raid and allowing a team/player to go through it unspoiled. I think that shorter Raids more frequently spaced would make it more enjoyable for casuals or those with less free time in general. Perhaps if the normal run took out a few encounters say a jump puzzle, a maze, and a mini boss fight, but then all of what we just did was available in the Hard mode release to give the hardcore guys that lengthy run and something new to explore to boot.

Addressing your comment, I personally haven't had any problems with any of the max level techniques from any of the versions of Destiny. I don't care about max level, and it really felt cheap for me to get max level in HoW so easily on all three characters. While I do play alot, I'm still casual hardcore. I don't have a desire to do the grindiest of the grind, or play the most punishing difficulties. I only attempted and completed Skolas once, and it was only to help someone else fill their team. I like the idea that there are people above me in ranking because they are willing to do the work I am not. They should be rewarded. Their level should be higher than mine. I don't think it should be tied to their gear though, with that we do agree. I think that to reach max level you should have to complete every single thing in destiny.

EVERYTHING includes, all story missions, all strikes, all raids on normal and hard, all prison of elders 32, 34, 35, any quests that are story related and not for a specific piece of gear (this is tricky and may need to be altered), all gold chests, all ghosts, 1 trip to lighthouse, reached level 5 in one IB, at least 1 completed nightfall of the current expansion, all calcified fragments, and maybe more. This probably seems grindy, but I don't give a #$%#. Max level should mean something and if someone can do all this, they deserve the awe people will have when they spawn in to the tower and everyone is like AWWWWEEEE shit, he's a FORTY!!!!! :)