Yep. (Destiny)
But a living game is less like buying a movie and more like buying a pass to an amusement park. Bungie didn’t change anything “at your home” they just changed the details of where you go for leisure. I don’t think the SW example fits either side of the argument very well. But I do think this brings up an interesting point regarding the separation of production and consumption in the scheme of things. It highlights a difference in the location of the identoty of a thing.
Amusement park is a great example. People think they own software because they have a copy of it. A disc is just a ticket to use the software. a digital code is just access to the amusement park. There is art in the making of an amusement park too, but it's meant to amuse the user. If the owner of the park decides to change it and hires engineers to tear down a section and make something new, does that mean that we as the customers are required to preserve it? I mean, no in my opinion. We don't own it.
For the sake of this comparison, let's redefine amusement parks. Let's say that they have traditionally been prefab affairs that you install in your backyard for you and your family to enjoy. Do the people who designed it and sold it to you have the right to change it from it's original state or otherwise render it unusable? Maybe--I mean, yes, that's what all those legal disclaimers we agree to are about. That said, it's reasonable to expect that some people aren't going to like this. Consumers usual expectations about games they "own" aren't being met. It's also reasonable for historians to want to preserve in some fashion examples from previous points in time.
Complete thread:
- Our Destiny -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-01-10, 13:09
- Our Destiny -
ManKitten,
2019-01-10, 13:28
- Pimps at Sea, matey. -
Traxus,
2019-01-10, 13:59
- Pimps at Sea, matey. - Harmanimus, 2019-01-10, 19:37
- Pimps at Sea, matey. -
Traxus,
2019-01-10, 13:59
- Whoa. Awesome! - ncsuDuncan, 2019-01-10, 13:32
- Dear Bungie -
breitzen,
2019-01-10, 13:32
- Dear Bungie -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:13
- Dear Bungie -
Jillybean,
2019-01-10, 14:38
- Dear Bungie -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 15:00
- Dear Bungie - Jillybean, 2019-01-10, 15:09
- Dear Bungie -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 15:00
- Dear Bungie -
Jillybean,
2019-01-10, 14:38
- Dear Bungie -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:13
- Our Destiny - MacAddictXIV, 2019-01-10, 13:32
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-01-10, 13:46
- That was my first thought as well. - cheapLEY, 2019-01-10, 13:53
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
ManKitten,
2019-01-10, 14:06
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:10
- My crazy/unlikely theory - ManKitten, 2019-01-10, 14:19
- My crazy/unlikely theory - FyreWulff, 2019-01-10, 14:39
- A Publisher Is Usually Necessary - digital_ronin, 2019-01-14, 11:10
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:10
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
squidnh3,
2019-01-10, 14:39
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:42
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
squidnh3,
2019-01-10, 14:54
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:56
- My crazy/unlikely theory - squidnh3, 2019-01-10, 15:03
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:56
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
squidnh3,
2019-01-10, 14:54
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:42
- My crazy/unlikely theory -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 14:42
- My crazy/unlikely theory - Avateur, 2019-01-10, 17:54
- Wha-wha-wha-whaaat? -
Leviathan,
2019-01-10, 14:16
- Is that a Levi sighting? -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2019-01-10, 14:25
- No. Can't be. They live only as legends. - INSANEdrive, 2019-01-10, 14:28
- Is that a Levi sighting? -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2019-01-10, 14:25
- Our Destiny -
INSANEdrive,
2019-01-10, 14:18
- Our Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:20
- SHUT UP CODY! - INSANEdrive, 2019-01-10, 14:21
- Our Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 14:20
- Congrats, BUNGiE. - UnrealCh13f, 2019-01-10, 14:19
- Our Destiny - FyreWulff, 2019-01-10, 14:33
- Our Destiny -
BOLL,
2019-01-10, 15:07
- Our Destiny - Kermit, 2019-01-14, 12:42
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Revenant1988,
2019-01-10, 15:35
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 16:06
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 16:08
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 16:21
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 16:53
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! - cheapLEY, 2019-01-10, 17:33
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 16:53
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 16:21
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
SIX min WHISTLE,
2019-01-10, 18:43
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Kermit,
2019-01-11, 05:10
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! - marmot 1333, 2019-01-11, 11:42
- Fun with Titles - INSANEdrive, 2019-01-11, 11:47
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Kermit,
2019-01-11, 05:10
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Revenant1988,
2019-01-11, 16:16
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! - Avateur, 2019-01-11, 16:40
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 16:08
- Please - MartyTheElder, 2019-01-11, 20:06
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
Traxus,
2019-01-14, 16:42
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! - Cody Miller, 2019-01-14, 18:25
- Wooo! Now, bring Marty back! -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-10, 16:06
- Our Destiny -
zumphry,
2019-01-10, 16:04
- Our Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 16:08
- Our Destiny - zumphry, 2019-01-10, 16:19
- Our Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-10, 16:08
- tl;dr Destiny not showing growth, Activision dumps Bungie. -
Korny,
2019-01-10, 16:09
- tl;dr Destiny not showing growth, Activision dumps Bungie. -
FyreWulff,
2019-01-10, 18:04
- Can we have "letters to the webmaster" back? -
Schedonnardus,
2019-01-10, 18:10
- Aren't we all secretly drunks in ape suits. - INSANEdrive, 2019-01-10, 23:13
- Can we have "letters to the webmaster" back? -
Schedonnardus,
2019-01-10, 18:10
- Bungie dumped Activision. -
narcogen,
2019-01-12, 07:12
- Bungie dumped Activision. -
metwaf100,
2019-01-12, 08:55
- You're both wrong, but it's okay to have a positive attitude -
Korny,
2019-01-12, 09:28
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
metwaf100,
2019-01-13, 05:57
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-13, 09:03
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-13, 09:10
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-13, 10:38
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-13, 12:18
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-13, 12:41
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-13, 12:55
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-14, 07:01
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-14, 11:54
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-01-14, 12:25
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY - cheapLEY, 2019-01-14, 14:00
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-15, 06:32
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-15, 08:30
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-15, 08:52
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-15, 09:47
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Kermit,
2019-01-15, 09:54
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY - Cody Miller, 2019-01-15, 10:02
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY - MacAddictXIV, 2019-01-15, 10:14
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-15, 10:27
- 7777% agree with this. - MacAddictXIV, 2019-01-15, 10:34
- Yep. -
breitzen,
2019-01-15, 12:55
- Yep. - Cody Miller, 2019-01-15, 13:04
- Yep. -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-15, 14:22
- Yep. -
Harmanimus,
2019-01-15, 16:17
- Yep. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-16, 06:53
- Yep. -
Kermit,
2019-01-16, 07:39
- Yep. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-16, 08:16
- Yep. -
Kermit,
2019-01-16, 08:58
- Yep. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-16, 09:24
- Yep. - Kermit, 2019-01-16, 13:01
- Yep. -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-16, 13:46
- Yep. -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-16, 14:40
- Yep. -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-16, 14:52
- Yep. -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-16, 15:11
- Yep. -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-16, 15:36
- MotS -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-16, 16:20
- MotS - Cody Miller, 2019-01-17, 11:04
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-01-17, 14:08
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-17, 14:45
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-01-17, 16:38
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-17, 18:44
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... - EffortlessFury, 2019-01-18, 02:31
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-17, 18:44
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Robot Chickens,
2019-01-18, 00:21
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Kermit,
2019-01-18, 08:12
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... - Cody Miller, 2019-01-18, 10:15
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-18, 08:57
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Kermit,
2019-01-18, 10:30
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... - Cody Miller, 2019-01-18, 10:48
- Vinyl -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-18, 10:53
- Vinyl - Kermit, 2019-01-18, 12:11
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Robot Chickens,
2019-01-18, 11:01
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... - Cody Miller, 2019-01-18, 11:18
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Kermit,
2019-01-18, 10:30
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Kermit,
2019-01-18, 08:12
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-01-17, 16:38
- If it makes you feel any better about the situation... -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-17, 14:45
- MotS -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-16, 16:20
- Yep. - Cody Miller, 2019-02-04, 16:11
- Yep. -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-16, 15:36
- Yep. -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-16, 15:11
- Yep. -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-16, 14:52
- Yep. -
Ragashingo,
2019-01-16, 14:40
- Yep. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-16, 09:24
- Yep. -
Kermit,
2019-01-16, 08:58
- Yep. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-16, 08:16
- Yep. -
Kermit,
2019-01-16, 07:39
- Yep. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-16, 06:53
- Yep. -
Harmanimus,
2019-01-15, 16:17
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Kermit,
2019-01-15, 15:42
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Malagate,
2019-01-16, 07:35
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Kermit,
2019-01-16, 07:49
- I'm with Cody on this. - Malagate, 2019-01-16, 08:00
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Funkmon,
2019-01-17, 06:19
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Kermit,
2019-01-17, 06:32
- But you can -
Harmanimus,
2019-01-17, 09:18
- But you can - Cody Miller, 2019-01-17, 10:21
- But you can -
Harmanimus,
2019-01-17, 09:18
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Kermit,
2019-01-17, 06:32
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Kermit,
2019-01-16, 07:49
- I'm with Cody on this. -
Malagate,
2019-01-16, 07:35
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Kermit,
2019-01-15, 09:54
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-15, 09:47
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-15, 08:52
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-15, 08:30
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-01-14, 12:25
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-14, 11:54
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-14, 07:01
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-13, 12:55
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-01-13, 12:41
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-13, 12:18
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-13, 10:38
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY - Kermit, 2019-01-14, 06:20
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
cheapLEY,
2019-01-13, 09:10
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
Cody Miller,
2019-01-13, 09:03
- You're both wrong, but it's okay to have a positive attitude -
narcogen,
2019-01-14, 05:18
- You're both wrong, but it's okay to have a positive attitude -
Harmanimus,
2019-01-14, 12:36
- Stock drop caused "investigation" not the other way around. -
narcogen,
2019-01-15, 06:21
- Stock drop caused "investigation" not the other way around. - Harmanimus, 2019-01-15, 14:28
- Stock drop caused "investigation" not the other way around. -
narcogen,
2019-01-15, 06:21
- You're both wrong, but it's okay to have a positive attitude - metwaf100, 2019-01-16, 06:41
- You're both wrong, but it's okay to have a positive attitude -
Harmanimus,
2019-01-14, 12:36
- HAHAAHAHA FUNNY -
metwaf100,
2019-01-13, 05:57
- You're both wrong, but it's okay to have a positive attitude -
Korny,
2019-01-12, 09:28
- Bungie dumped Activision. -
metwaf100,
2019-01-12, 08:55
- tl;dr Destiny not showing growth, Activision dumps Bungie. -
FyreWulff,
2019-01-10, 18:04
- Chinese curse -
Kermit,
2019-01-10, 18:40
- Bungie is FREE -
metwaf100,
2019-01-11, 00:56
- Alright. Who snuck a sock into Bungie Headquarters? *NM* - INSANEdrive, 2019-01-11, 11:50
- Bungie is FREE -
metwaf100,
2019-01-11, 00:56
- Best take in here -
electricpirate,
2019-01-10, 21:23
- "That D2 puzzle was so difficult even Activision gave up" - INSANEdrive, 2019-01-10, 23:10
- rofl - Claude Errera, 2019-01-11, 00:28
- Ha! - Kermit, 2019-01-11, 05:04
- Our Destiny -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-01-11, 13:31
- Our Destiny -
Avateur,
2019-01-11, 16:41
- Life is good, friend! Hope you are well too. *NM* - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-01-11, 22:29
- [waves] -
Kermit,
2019-01-12, 18:06
- <3 - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-01-26, 11:50
- You're alive! -
stabbim,
2019-01-14, 07:56
- Any sign of the Chief? I think we lost him. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-01-26, 11:51
- Our Destiny -
Avateur,
2019-01-11, 16:41
- Our Destiny -
ManKitten,
2019-01-10, 13:28