As someone who snipes all the time... (Destiny)

by BeardFade , Portland, OR, Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 18:08 (3360 days ago) @ ChaosSociety

While I understand your frustration, and think 1000-Yard Stare is a joke (get rid of the aim assist Bungie), I personally disagree with most of what's going on in this thread.

I can only speak anecdotally, but here's what I have to say as a counter.

1) For those who are upset about Unflinching. I agree, it shouldn't be a perk, but that's because it doesn't work. Seriously, I've tried that perk and time and time again, I find I am no less flinch-y than before. Unflinching is not your problem, because...

2) Yes, Snipers still get staggered. I get staggered left and right while sniping. High caliber rounds are even worse. I got hit with a MIDA last night and it felt like it spun me 90 degrees, I had no chance at hitting a second shot. That being said, while getting staggered, I've managed many times to snap the reticule back on to the head and win the fight. For the record, I've primarily used Eirene and Praedyth's Revenge before that, and both have very low aim assist. The truth you need to face is that sometimes a sniper just out shot you.

3) Sniping is the most logical way to play the game. It isn't cheap to do something that enables you to engage at distance. Isn't that what you would do in real life combat? Engage at a distance where your enemies weapons are less lethal? This is literally why I play as a sniper, to better control engagement distances. I recognize it's a game, but engaging at distances longer than a primary (except for scout rifles and some pulse rifles) can handle is to my advantage not just in that my gun becomes more lethal than yours, but I can find cover and run away should I become disadvantaged in a fight. That's not bullshit, that's just smart.

4) Snipers have not changed since day 1, so you should have a game plan as to how to counter them by now. You should know the sight lines and how to avoid them and the best places to flank them, etc. That's just part of being aware of your surroundings and situation. I think good snipers actually tend to be more creative with the map than other players, recognizing new possible lines, moving specifically from cover to cover. Everyone in this forum could probably improve their PvP game just by increasing their awareness (though I know from experience, some of you are down right incredible at this, don't know how you could improve a bit more there).

5) The only thing about snipers that bothers me is when I face a GREAT one. I'm talking the snipers capable of no-scoping/quick-scoping. The ones that can dome you from 20 feet away on the run, etc. And when that happens and my frustration has subsided, I remind myself that in all things, there are a few people who are INCREDIBLY talented, whom we call virtuosos, and I would be willing to say that there are virtuoso video game snipers out there whose thumbs always find your face while shooting. That's just something you have to live with.