FR Range stat seems pretty important to me (Destiny)
So stability is obviously important on FRs. No doubt about it. Having a tight cluster of projectiles makes it easier to get 1-shot kills.
But I wouldn't dismiss the importance of the range stat either. First of all, a FR with a high range stat is effective at distances that are squarely outside of shotgun range. That makes a big difference to the usability of the weapon. FRs with lower range stats are suddenly competing with Felwinter's Lie and other long range shotguns. In those situations, shotguns usually win. If you have a high impact FR with a great range stat, you don't even need to connect with all bolts for a 1-shot kill. So in some ways, range does indeed trump stability.
On top of that, the range stat has some kind of connection to the auto aim/bullet magnetism properties of a weapon. I don't know the exact details of it, but I find having a high range stat makes it easier to nail targets at any distance.
Complete thread:
- April Update Preview Stream (Sandbox & Crucible Changes) -
Korny,
2016-04-06, 15:45
- April Update Preview Stream (Sandbox & Crucible Changes) - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:04
- Special ammo comes during spawn now. Good. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:17
- Special ammo comes during spawn now. Good. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:30
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:33
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:38
- Not really. Stability tightens the bolts, which is my issue. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:50
- Range actually tightens spread on FRs. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:02
- Stability is the primary spread reducer currently. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 17:07
- I thought Range was projectile velocity -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 17:15
- Yep. Cody, as usual, has no idea what he is talking about. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:16
- Hell, IIRC, HE taught me that - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 18:28
- FR Range stat seems pretty important to me - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-06, 18:33
- Velocity AND spread. Look it up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:31
- Velocity AND spread. Look it up. - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 18:35
- Correctamundo. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 18:54
- Uh huh. How about a source link? - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 19:03
- Yep. Cody, as usual, has no idea what he is talking about. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:16
- That theory could be tested pretty easily... - Mariachi, 2016-04-07, 12:00
- Range actually tightens spread on FRs. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:02
- Not really. Stability tightens the bolts, which is my issue. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:50
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:38
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:33
- Special ammo comes during spawn now. Good. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:30
- Sniper scopes: zoom increased on all scopes -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 16:32
- And recoil. I'm not a fan. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:34
- Sniper scopes: zoom increased on all scopes -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 17:09
- Correction: zoom increased on all good scopes. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 17:10
- Sniper scopes: zoom increased on all scopes - Korny, 2016-04-06, 17:11
- MIDA reverted to non-high caliber round. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:35
- Almost no reason to use TLW hipfired now. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:38
- Explanation pleaze :) -
red robber,
2016-04-06, 17:58
- Yeah I'm not sure either -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- Damage decrease for hipfire. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:04
- Wasn't it always 3 headshots -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:05
- Low armor could be killed in two. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:07
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:14
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:17
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:46
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:50
- No question it's still good. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 18:55
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:50
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:46
- Side note (low armor builds) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:41
- Side note (low armor builds) -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 18:45
- Side note (low armor builds) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:48
- It is pretty fun! It's my main joy while playing a titan. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 18:50
- Side note (low armor builds) -
dogcow,
2016-04-06, 18:51
- bumper jumper for the win :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-06, 19:07
- Side note (low armor builds) - MacAddictXIV, 2016-04-06, 18:53
- Side note (low armor builds) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:48
- Side note (low armor builds) -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 18:45
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:17
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:14
- Low armor could be killed in two. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:07
- Lol - red robber, 2016-04-06, 18:06
- Wasn't it always 3 headshots -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:05
- Damage decrease for hipfire. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:04
- Yeah I'm not sure either -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- Explanation pleaze :) -
red robber,
2016-04-06, 17:58
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:43
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- Eh. Seemed clear to me. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:46
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 17:47
- Yep. :) - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 17:52
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- The single good gun from the raid got an ammo nerf. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:48
- HAHAHA -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 17:06
- My thoughts exactly :p -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-04-06, 17:07
- As usual In house Meta and outside meta do not overlap - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 17:13
- HAHAHA - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:15
- My thoughts exactly :p -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-04-06, 17:07
- What's wrong with MIDA? -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-06, 17:40
- What's wrong with MIDA? - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 17:44
- No, but since all other guns have been nerfed... -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 17:45
- Could you please stop trolling this thread? Thanks. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- This is fairly standard Funkmon. You're just now noticing? -
CougRon,
2016-04-06, 18:25
- Of course I've noticed. - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:30
- Irony. - ProbablyLast, 2016-04-06, 18:45
- The one where we said the same thing? Makes sense. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 18:48
- I mean, he's not entirely wrong - someotherguy, 2016-04-07, 15:42
- This is fairly standard Funkmon. You're just now noticing? -
CougRon,
2016-04-06, 18:25
- Could you please stop trolling this thread? Thanks. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- All around good gun shone once others were nerfed -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-06, 17:46
- It was always good -
Durandal,
2016-04-06, 18:00
- It was always good -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-06, 18:23
- It was always good - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:28
- It was always good -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-06, 18:23
- It was always good -
Durandal,
2016-04-06, 18:00
- Dreg's Promise projectiles track now?!? -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 17:56
- Dreg's Promise projectiles track now?!? - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:23
- Landfall won't take down a Bubble - red robber, 2016-04-06, 18:07
- I just wish they would make shotguns fun again in PvE. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-04-06, 19:37
- Yep. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 19:40
- Double yep. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:41
- Three yeps. LOOK AT THEM FALL! -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 19:44
- I'll give this a yep, yep, yep & yep - unoudid, 2016-04-07, 02:34
- Three yeps. LOOK AT THEM FALL! -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 19:44
- Double yep. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:41
- Invective + No Backup Plans? -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 19:46
- If they were reverted to the 100% buff state. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:50
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 21:13
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 21:58
- Beyond Warlock melee -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 22:01
- Beyond Warlock melee -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 22:18
- Oh, Invective is still useful. I'm comparing with purples - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 22:37
- Beyond Warlock melee -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 22:18
- Beyond Warlock melee -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 22:01
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 21:58
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 21:13
- If they were reverted to the 100% buff state. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:50
- Yep. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 19:40