Invective + No Backup Plans? (Destiny)
by Ragashingo 
, Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, April 06, 2016, 19:46 (3151 days ago) @ ProbablyLast
It's the build I use most often... Besides, didn't shotguns historically get a 100% buff, a 50% nerf then a 25% rebuff or something? How much more fun can they get?
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- April Update Preview Stream (Sandbox & Crucible Changes) -
Korny,
2016-04-06, 15:45
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- April Update Preview Stream (Sandbox & Crucible Changes) - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:04
- Special ammo comes during spawn now. Good. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:17
- Special ammo comes during spawn now. Good. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:30
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better.
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Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:33
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:38
- Not really. Stability tightens the bolts, which is my issue. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:50
- Range actually tightens spread on FRs. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:02
- Stability is the primary spread reducer currently. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 17:07
- I thought Range was projectile velocity -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 17:15
- Yep. Cody, as usual, has no idea what he is talking about. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:16
- Hell, IIRC, HE taught me that -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:28
- FR Range stat seems pretty important to me - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-06, 18:33
- Hell, IIRC, HE taught me that
- Velocity AND spread. Look it up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:31
- Velocity AND spread. Look it up. - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 18:35
- Correctamundo. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 18:54
- Uh huh. How about a source link? - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 19:03
- Yep. Cody, as usual, has no idea what he is talking about.
- That theory could be tested pretty easily... - Mariachi, 2016-04-07, 12:00
- Stability is the primary spread reducer currently.
- Range actually tightens spread on FRs.
- Not really. Stability tightens the bolts, which is my issue.
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:38
- Increased base stability. Seems to make them better.
- Special ammo comes during spawn now. Good. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:30
- Sniper scopes: zoom increased on all scopes -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 16:32
- And recoil. I'm not a fan. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:34
- Sniper scopes: zoom increased on all scopes -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 17:09
- Correction: zoom increased on all good scopes. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 17:10
- Sniper scopes: zoom increased on all scopes - Korny, 2016-04-06, 17:11
- And recoil. I'm not a fan.
- MIDA reverted to non-high caliber round. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:35
- Almost no reason to use TLW hipfired now. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:38
- Explanation pleaze :) -
red robber,
2016-04-06, 17:58
- Yeah I'm not sure either -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- Damage decrease for hipfire. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:04
- Wasn't it always 3 headshots -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:05
- Low armor could be killed in two. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:07
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:14
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:17
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:46
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:50
- No question it's still good. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 18:55
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:50
- It was. It's not only that, though. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:46
- Side note (low armor builds) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:41
- Side note (low armor builds) -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 18:45
- Side note (low armor builds) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:48
- It is pretty fun! It's my main joy while playing a titan. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:50
- Side note (low armor builds) -
dogcow,
2016-04-06, 18:51
- bumper jumper for the win :) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 19:07
- bumper jumper for the win :)
- Side note (low armor builds) - MacAddictXIV, 2016-04-06, 18:53
- It is pretty fun! It's my main joy while playing a titan.
- Side note (low armor builds) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:48
- Side note (low armor builds) -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 18:45
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:17
- That wasn't really the point of hipfire though -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:14
- Low armor could be killed in two.
- Lol -
red robber,
2016-04-06, 18:06
- Wasn't it always 3 headshots -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:05
- Damage decrease for hipfire. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:04
- Yeah I'm not sure either -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- Explanation pleaze :)
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:43
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- Eh. Seemed clear to me. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:46
- Eh. Seemed clear to me.
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 17:47
- Yep. :) -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 17:52
- Yep. :)
- Luckily, Bingle has introduced timely nerfs to Year 1 guns. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- The single good gun from the raid got an ammo nerf. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:48
- HAHAHA -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 17:06
- My thoughts exactly :p -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-04-06, 17:07
- As usual In house Meta and outside meta do not overlap - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 17:13
- HAHAHA - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:15
- My thoughts exactly :p
- What's wrong with MIDA? -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-06, 17:40
- What's wrong with MIDA? - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 17:44
- No, but since all other guns have been nerfed... -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 17:45
- Could you please stop trolling this thread? Thanks. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- This is fairly standard Funkmon. You're just now noticing? -
CougRon,
2016-04-06, 18:25
- Of course I've noticed. - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:30
- Irony. - ProbablyLast, 2016-04-06, 18:45
- The one where we said the same thing? Makes sense. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 18:48
- I mean, he's not entirely wrong - someotherguy, 2016-04-07, 15:42
- This is fairly standard Funkmon. You're just now noticing?
- Could you please stop trolling this thread? Thanks. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- All around good gun shone once others were nerfed -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-06, 17:46
- It was always good -
Durandal,
2016-04-06, 18:00
- It was always good -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-06, 18:23
- It was always good - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:28
- It was always good -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-06, 18:23
- It was always good -
Durandal,
2016-04-06, 18:00
- Dreg's Promise projectiles track now?!? -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 17:56
- Dreg's Promise projectiles track now?!? - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 18:23
- Landfall won't take down a Bubble - red robber, 2016-04-06, 18:07
- I just wish they would make shotguns fun again in PvE. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-04-06, 19:37
- Yep. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 19:40
- Double yep. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:41
- Three yeps. LOOK AT THEM FALL! -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 19:44
- I'll give this a yep, yep, yep & yep -
unoudid,
2016-04-07, 02:34
- I'll give this a yep, yep, yep & yep
- Three yeps. LOOK AT THEM FALL!
- Double yep.
- Invective + No Backup Plans? -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 19:46
- If they were reverted to the 100% buff state. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:50
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 21:13
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 21:58
- Beyond Warlock melee -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 22:01
- Beyond Warlock melee -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 22:18
- Oh, Invective is still useful. I'm comparing with purples -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 22:37
- Oh, Invective is still useful. I'm comparing with purples
- Beyond Warlock melee -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 22:18
- Beyond Warlock melee -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 22:01
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 21:58
- The range nerfs are what killed them, IMO
- If they were reverted to the 100% buff state. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:50
- Yep.