
One thing Bungie does right (Destiny)
They do not punish their players when they don't actually cheat.
The problem with enforcing a code of conduct is that it requires the player to read the developer's mind, as to what's a 'known issue or bug', which is entirely unreasonable. All players know is what the came code allows them to do.
Fouling is against the rules in Basketball right? But if you are down a point with 12 seconds left, you're going to intentionally foul their worst shooter, hope he misses his free throws, and then hope you gain the lead on your next possession. You can never fault someone for using the rules to their advantage. It doesn't matter what was intended, all that matters is what the rules actually are.
So, thanks Bungie. Seriously.
Do these players really think they are doing nothing wrong? Should we really be ok with or actively encourage players to get away with whatever they can? Yes, the game should have been coded and tested better, but do players really have zero intelligence as to what is and isn't allowed. Should they have zero responsibility for their actions? Even when those actions, as the article notes, are having a significant negative effect on other players?
Fact is, there are rules actually in place. Those in charge say that this wall glitching is not allowed, thus the potential for punishment. That something is physically possible does not always mean it is allowed. In basketball, killing the opposing team with plastic sporks is also physically possible, but is similarly not allowed. (At the very least there would be a large fine...)
Insisting that every possible possibility be defined as allowed or disallowed is... over burdensome. I think we should do our best to define the rules / code the game but also encourage sportsmanship and a sense of fair play to help govern instances that slip through the... walls... :)
Complete thread:
- One thing Bungie does right -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-18, 14:53
- Very true.
- Kahzgul, 2016-04-18, 15:07
- One thing Bungie does right -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-18, 15:27
- +1
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-18, 15:30
- One thing Bungie does right -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-18, 15:30
- One thing Bungie does right - Kahzgul, 2016-04-18, 16:34
- One thing Bungie does right -
Schedonnardus,
2016-04-18, 19:22
- Why not disable the wall-glitch skill?
- slycrel, 2016-04-19, 06:43
- Why not disable the wall-glitch skill?
- They could call it the "14 Day Loot & Play" deal.
- Korny, 2016-04-18, 15:33
- They could call it the "14 Day Loot & Play" deal. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-18, 15:39
- +1
- Claude Errera, 2016-04-18, 15:51
- +1
- breitzen, 2016-04-18, 16:09
- +1
- UnrealCh13f, 2016-04-18, 17:10
- Splain, plz.
- Funkmon, 2016-04-18, 20:04
- Either MCC or H5 had a big fuck-up where that was the excuse
- ZackDark, 2016-04-18, 20:10
- H4, actually.
- CyberKN, 2016-04-18, 20:10
- Oops, yeah, that
- ZackDark, 2016-04-18, 20:15
- Oops, yeah, that
- H4, actually.
- Summary... -
Korny,
2016-04-18, 20:19
- Good times
- ZackDark, 2016-04-18, 20:20
- lol
- Funkmon, 2016-04-18, 20:39
- Summary... -
stabbim,
2016-04-18, 23:40
- Summary... - uberfoop, 2016-04-19, 04:25
- Good times
- Either MCC or H5 had a big fuck-up where that was the excuse
- +1
- They could call it the "14 Day Loot & Play" deal. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-18, 15:39
- One thing Bungie does right -
Kahzgul,
2016-04-18, 16:33
- One thing Bungie does right -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-18, 16:39
- One thing Bungie does right -
Kahzgul,
2016-04-18, 18:55
- One thing Bungie does right - dogcow, 2016-04-18, 19:01
- One thing Bungie does right -
Kahzgul,
2016-04-18, 18:55
- One thing Bungie does right -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-18, 16:39
- +1
- One thing Bungie does right -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-18, 15:58
- One thing Bungie does right -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-18, 17:14
- Yup. Everyone should design around FUN first. Loot second.
- Kahzgul, 2016-04-18, 18:56
- Heh, reminds me of my favorite quote on cheating in tests - ZackDark, 2016-04-18, 20:19
- One thing Bungie does right -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-18, 22:05
- As long as they are aware of the consequences, I agree
- ZackDark, 2016-04-18, 22:46
- One thing Bungie does right -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-18, 22:49
- One thing Bungie does right -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-18, 23:59
- One thing Bungie does right -
CyberKN,
2016-04-19, 00:15
- One thing Bungie does right -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 00:39
- Wait time out -
Avateur,
2016-04-19, 01:31
- Wait time out -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-19, 01:41
- I missed all of Halo 2 multiplayer. :)
- Ragashingo, 2016-04-19, 02:03
- I missed all of Halo 2 multiplayer. :)
- Wait time out -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 02:02
- Wait time out - cheapLEY, 2016-04-19, 02:06
- Wait time out -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-19, 01:41
- Wait time out -
Avateur,
2016-04-19, 01:31
- One thing Bungie does right -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 00:39
- The sporks shall never be forgotten -
Pyromancy,
2016-04-19, 00:55
- I know! I'm going down in history cause of them! :p
- Ragashingo, 2016-04-19, 01:00
- I know! I'm going down in history cause of them! :p
- One thing Bungie does right -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-19, 00:57
- One thing Bungie does right - Ragashingo, 2016-04-19, 01:16
- One thing Bungie does right -
CyberKN,
2016-04-19, 00:15
- One thing Bungie does right -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-18, 23:59
- One thing Bungie does right -
Kahzgul,
2016-04-18, 23:13
- Another comparison -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-18, 23:18
- Another comparison -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 00:42
- Another comparison -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-19, 01:08
- Another comparison -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 01:40
- Another comparison - cheapLEY, 2016-04-19, 01:43
- Didn't even care about loot, but double-dipping HoW chests? -
ZackDark,
2016-04-19, 02:06
- Seriously. -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-19, 02:08
- The racing was good. More SRL please...
- Ragashingo, 2016-04-19, 02:08
- The racing was good. More SRL please... - cheapLEY, 2016-04-19, 02:26
- The racing was good. More SRL please...
- Seriously. -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-19, 02:08
- Another comparison -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 01:40
- Another comparison -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-19, 01:08
- Another comparison -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-19, 00:42
- One thing Bungie does right - Ragashingo, 2016-04-19, 00:31
- Another comparison -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-18, 23:18
- As long as they are aware of the consequences, I agree
- Yup. Everyone should design around FUN first. Loot second.
- One thing Bungie does right -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-18, 17:14
- Division actively punishes players by having no jump button.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-04-18, 18:19
- They also used exploits on their official stream -
Schedonnardus,
2016-04-18, 19:40
- ^^^ This ^^^
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-18, 19:58
- They also used exploits on their official stream - Cody Miller, 2016-04-18, 20:10
- ^^^ This ^^^
- Very true.