Wait time out (Destiny)

by Ragashingo , Official DBO Cryptarch, Tuesday, April 19, 2016, 02:02 (3234 days ago) @ Avateur

But the assumption is already wrong. I reported at least a dozen people during the Great Shadow Shot Debacle but did not use the glitch myself. I also never superbounced, sword flew, BxRed or hid outside a map. You're down to at least 99.99999999% and I can't be the only player in all the world to have played fair.

Tone is everything, and I want to preface this post to say that I'm not in attack mode--I'm in total curiosity mode. But before I begin, though, I'd just like to point out that he said if you're a DEVELOPER, you have to ASSUME that if there's an exploit in your game, 100% of the people will use it. He's not saying that 100% of people actually will exploit whatever. It's the assumption from a design standpoint to try to ensure that your game is as non-exploitable as possible.

It seems more fair to say that somebody will exploit an exploit... not that everyone will. Might just be the oddness of language biting us there though. :)

Now, onto my curiosity! You're telling me you literally never superbounced or sword flew or BxRed or hid outside of a map at all ever? Like not even by yourself in a custom game or with one other friend in a custom game? Or are you just saying not in matchmaking or against other people? If you literally never did any of those at any time anywhere at all, that's just crazy to me!

Keep in mind a few things:
1. I got Xbox Live fairly late in Halo 3's life and didn't really play it that much. Reach was my game.
2. I was the kind of person who used an Assault Rifle because the shotgun, sniper rifle, and (Halo 1) pistol felt unfair. Similarly, I didn't use Thorn during its overpowered days. Fair play and beating an opponent without a massive advantage is something I've always done... even when it wasn't cheating in any way and wasn't a smart way to approach an encounter in any way.
(I did use Armor Lock a lot though... that's fine, right? :p )

Superbounced? No. Not that I recall and certainly not intentionally.
Sword Flew. Oh, perhaps at some point in a custom game just to try it. But I generally disliked Custom Games. I like my game rules fair and predictable, you see.
Hid out of a map? Nope. Completely not my style. Every once in a while I fall off the side of a Destiny map into an out of bounds zone that I'm able to recover from... but always by complete accident...

I was similarly VERY much against BxR and superbouncing in-game, especially in competitive play. First of all, Bungie outright said it was cheating. Second, there were ways to beat BxR and BxB, and it was oh so satisfying to turn that around on people (especially in tournaments). Sweet, sweet satisfaction.

But holy cow, for real? Even with all I just said, I TOTALLY used those techniques alone in custom games, with some friends in custom games, and even sometimes when playing "competitively" with friends in custom games just for laughs. As for matchmaking, I only superbounced if someone was using it against me first. You want to bounce onto the roof on Zanzibar? Assuming you don't peek and get sniped by me first, I'm coming up there to destroy you. That's about all I'd do that for.

For the most part, custom games seemed to be for people who no longer wanted to play normal Halo... and I liked playing normal Halo. Some may recall that I'm not much of a fan of Forge either because it lead to random maps that I did not know being constantly rotated into matchmaking.