We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? (Destiny)
by Cody Miller 
, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, August 11, 2016, 20:11 (3030 days ago) @ Korny
edited by Cody Miller, Thursday, August 11, 2016, 20:15
A developer (implied to be a Naughty Dog dev) shut the "better AI" thing down in an AAGD article. Imagine if the "balance of power" enemy AI in The Last of Us was way less forgiving, and way more aggressive. That wouldn't be fun, it would be terrible (heck, the game can be painfully unforgiving on its own already).
Harder is not better. There are numerous ways to make Ai better, not the least of which being giving them more interesting behaviors or the ability to move around the level in cool ways. What if when knocked around with an explosion the AI dynamically tries to balance itself with arms and legs? Stuff like that.
Complete thread:
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-10, 18:16
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- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
ZackDark,
2016-08-10, 18:37
- +100
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Chewbaccawakka,
2016-08-10, 19:01
- I think you mean +18,000,000,000,000,000,000 -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-10, 19:17
- I think you mean +18,000,000,000,000,000,000
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-08-10, 19:28
- "If you're a literal crazy person..." -
someotherguy,
2016-08-10, 22:59
- I totally get what you mean -
ZackDark,
2016-08-11, 00:23
- Is he talking about the Mako? -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 01:38
- +1. Mako was fine, lifeless boring samey planets less so. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-11, 08:03
- +1. Mako was fine, lifeless boring samey planets less so.
- Is he talking about the Mako? -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 01:38
- I totally get what you mean -
ZackDark,
2016-08-11, 00:23
- +100
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
dogcow,
2016-08-10, 20:02
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) - Kahzgul, 2016-08-10, 21:55
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
Kermit,
2016-08-10, 23:16
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-10, 23:26
- Isn't 500ft, like, 4 meters? I could work with that ;p -
ZackDark,
2016-08-11, 00:26
- I believe it is actually .04 imperial millikiloliters... -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 03:19
- + 2.7182828283141592563589 metric mega-tablespoons. -
SteelGaribaldi,
2016-08-11, 16:12
- + 2.7182828283141592563589 metric mega-tablespoons.
- I believe it is actually .04 imperial millikiloliters...
- New Vegas had a few of those as well. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-11, 01:16
- Isn't 500ft, like, 4 meters? I could work with that ;p
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
Robot Chickens,
2016-08-10, 23:49
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 15:56
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
uberfoop,
2016-08-11, 19:01
- That's amazing -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-11, 20:35
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) - stabbim, 2016-08-12, 03:00
- That's amazing
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
uberfoop,
2016-08-11, 19:01
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 15:56
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-10, 23:26
- The game is dangerous. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 01:35
- The game is dangerous. -
Mid7night,
2016-08-11, 02:57
- I wouldn't worry. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-11, 16:29
- I wouldn't worry. -
narcogen,
2016-08-11, 23:42
- Sad times. But I have a PC, so meh. Wake me up in an hour. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-12, 13:54
- Don't bother. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-12, 17:28
- Don't bother. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-12, 17:32
- Don't bother. - Cody Miller, 2016-08-12, 17:54
- Don't bother. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-12, 19:56
- Don't bother. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-12, 22:38
- Don't bother. - Cody Miller, 2016-08-12, 22:53
- Pooh was a terrible main character. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-12, 23:51
- Real life is all heffalumps and woozles. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-12, 23:52
- I mean, dude's catchphrase is "oh, bother" -
Vortech,
2016-08-13, 04:03
- I assume he was being sarcastic about that part. - Funkmon, 2016-08-13, 04:34
- I have zero actual Pooh knowledge. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-13, 16:30
- Pooh was a terrible main character. -
uberfoop,
2016-08-13, 04:49
- Pooh is a legend for that last one. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-13, 04:57
- You nerds need help. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-13, 16:31
- Pooh is a legend for that last one.
- Real life is all heffalumps and woozles.
- Don't bother. -
BlackstarBSP,
2016-08-14, 17:26
- Don't bother. - ZackDark, 2016-08-14, 17:58
- How dare you. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-14, 19:50
- How dare you. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-14, 19:55
- I wish I had that much hair, tbh. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-14, 19:58
- +1 -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-14, 20:25
- +1
- I wish I had that much hair, tbh.
- How dare you. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-14, 19:55
- Don't bother. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-12, 22:38
- Don't bother. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-12, 17:32
- Don't bother. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-12, 17:28
- Sad times. But I have a PC, so meh. Wake me up in an hour.
- I wouldn't worry. -
narcogen,
2016-08-11, 23:42
- I wouldn't worry. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-11, 16:29
- The game is dangerous. -
Mid7night,
2016-08-11, 02:57
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 13:25
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 13:35
- Agreed -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 13:38
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 13:45
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 14:12
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 14:32
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 14:46
- Agreed -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 15:13
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 16:41
- Agreed - Ragashingo, 2016-08-11, 16:49
- I don't think there has ever been a game better than Destiny -
Funkmon,
2016-08-11, 16:50
- I don't think there has ever been a game better than Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 16:58
- I don't think there has ever been a game better than Destiny - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-08-11, 17:00
- I don't think there has ever been a game better than Destiny -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 17:28
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 17:42
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-11, 17:44
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 17:58
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 18:11
- I think you nailed it. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 18:17
- Y'all are crazy. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-11, 18:29
- Y'all are crazy. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-08-11, 18:42
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 18:31
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-11, 18:44
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 18:56
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-08-11, 19:04
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-11, 20:02
- ODST was good st least. - someotherguy, 2016-08-12, 05:36
- Here's why it's worse. - Funkmon, 2016-08-11, 20:05
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 18:56
- One of my all-time favorite levels from any game. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-11, 18:44
- I think you nailed it. - uberfoop, 2016-08-11, 19:50
- Y'all are crazy.
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-08-11, 19:18
- I think you nailed it. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 18:17
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 18:11
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 17:58
- I agree with this absolutely - Kahzgul, 2016-08-11, 18:43
- Perfect except for… -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 20:13
- What was wrong with the story? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 20:53
- Don't get him started. -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 21:52
- I mean, he's not wrong. I love Reach, but that story's messy -
Avateur,
2016-08-12, 02:48
- *In b4 Not Canon* -
Pyromancy,
2016-08-12, 04:48
- I agree with Cody on 2 things 100%: isnotcanon & Halo 2 SMG. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-12, 05:07
- I agree with Cody on 2 things 100%: isnotcanon & Halo 2 SMG. -
Kermit,
2016-08-12, 14:37
- Warming up to ODST -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-12, 14:49
- Warming up to ODST - cheapLEY, 2016-08-12, 17:00
- Warming up to ODST -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-12, 14:49
- I agree with Cody on 2 things 100%: isnotcanon & Halo 2 SMG. -
Kermit,
2016-08-12, 14:37
- I agree with Cody on 2 things 100%: isnotcanon & Halo 2 SMG.
- *In b4 Not Canon*
- I mean, he's not wrong. I love Reach, but that story's messy
- Don't get him started.
- What was wrong with the story?
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-11, 17:44
- Reach was darn near perfect, IMO. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 17:42
- You're a crazy person - someotherguy, 2016-08-12, 05:32
- I don't think there has ever been a game better than Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 16:58
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 16:41
- Agreed -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-11, 15:13
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 14:46
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 14:32
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 14:12
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-11, 13:45
- Agreed -
Korny,
2016-08-11, 14:21
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 14:32
- I simply do not agree with your assumptions - kidtsunami, 2016-08-11, 14:38
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 15:58
- Sounds like you've never play this indie game called Maya. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-11, 16:28
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 16:43
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 17:10
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 20:10
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 21:03
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
CyberKN,
2016-08-11, 21:05
- Fixed. ;) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 21:08
- Fixed. ;)
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 21:19
- Silly me. Fixed. -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 21:23
- Silly me. Fixed.
- Should we sticky this? - ZackDark, 2016-08-11, 23:42
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
CyberKN,
2016-08-11, 21:05
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 21:03
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 20:10
- Rocket league says otherwise ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-08-11, 17:47
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Korny,
2016-08-11, 18:38
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 20:11
- GTA IV's did that - ZackDark, 2016-08-11, 23:44
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 20:11
- Does that NECESSARILY mean more money, though? - ZackDark, 2016-08-11, 19:08
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? - uberfoop, 2016-08-11, 19:21
- We measure game worth in terms of total complexity now? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-11, 17:10
- Sounds like you've never play this indie game called Maya.
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 14:32
- Agreed -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 13:38
- +1 -
slycrel,
2016-08-11, 16:45
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-11, 18:45
- +1 -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 22:34
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-11, 23:33
- +1 - Kermit, 2016-08-12, 14:43
- Good god, sold -
ZackDark,
2016-08-11, 23:46
- PSA: Keep an eye on where you parked! - cheapLEY, 2016-08-11, 23:59
- +1 - slycrel, 2016-08-12, 15:08
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-11, 23:33
- +1 -
Kermit,
2016-08-11, 22:34
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-11, 18:45
- Agreed -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-11, 13:35
- No Man's Sky + that LED backlight thing Pyromancy posted. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-13, 00:13
- No Man's Sky + that LED backlight thing Pyromancy posted. - Funkmon, 2016-08-13, 01:42
- No Man's Sky: Everything Destiny Isn't (Gameplay-wise) -
ZackDark,
2016-08-10, 18:37